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  Can halluciengins reveal what has been hidden from us and bring more answers?

  by Bad_Wolf in

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  halluciengins, and several recent studies pointed out how we us only certain sections of our brain depending what is happening.

  but some of them, like acid, make your entire brain turn on.

  heightened senses.

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  "I do suggest though that someone should have someone sober present."
  

  Chook, we called that one "The Shepherd". :D
  
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  Can you prove Jesus existed outside of Bible (so called) evidence?

  by punkofnice in

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  i thought i'd done a thread on this before but can't find it.. so.

  did jesus actually exist?.

  without using the bible i'd like to see obvious proof..

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  @Fisherman: All the days of the week are named after gods. If you use the argument that the Calendar is evidence forJesus' existence then you have to accept that the Calendar is also evidence for the existence of these other gods.

  
  

  Cut and Paste from Interwebs:
  

  Sunday comes from Old English “Sunnandæg," which is derived from a Germanic interpretation of the Latin dies solis, "sun's day." Germanic and Norse mythology personify the sun as a goddess named Sunna or Sól.
  

  Monday likewise comes from Old English “Mōnandæg,” named after Máni, the Norse personification of the moon (and Sól's brother).
  

  Tuesday comes from Old English “Tīwesdæg,” after Tiw, or Tyr, a one-handed Norse god of dueling. He is equated with Mars, the Roman war god.
  

  Wednesday is "Wōden's day." Wōden, or Odin, was the ruler of the Norse gods' realm and associated with wisdom, magic, victory and death. The Romans connected Wōden to Mercury because they were both guides of souls after death. “Wednesday” comes from Old English “Wōdnesdæg.”
  

  Thursday, "Thor's day," gets its English name after the hammer-wielding Norse god of thunder, strength and protection. The Roman god Jupiter, as well as being the king of gods, was the god of the sky and thunder. “Thursday” comes from Old English “Þūnresdæg.”
  

  Friday is named after the wife of Odin. Some scholars say her name was Frigg; others say it was Freya; other scholars say Frigg and Freya were two separate goddesses. Whatever her name, she was often associated with Venus, the Roman goddess of love, beauty and fertility. “Friday” comes from Old English “Frīgedæg.”
  

  As for Saturday, Germanic and Norse traditions didn’t assign any of their gods to this day of the week. They retained the Roman name instead. The English word “Saturday” comes from the Anglo-Saxon word “Sæturnesdæg,” which translates to “Saturn’s day.”
  
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  We are like pet dogs that run off with wild dogs...

  by dubstepped in

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  ...and need a bullet to the head.

  my wife found a post on instagram where some jw nutter claims that either lett or morris said this in a talk.

  any confirmation or video of such?

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  A farmer had a pet dog. Sometimes the farmer would ignore the dog, or feed him rotten food. On the rare occasions, when the dog had time off from his duties, he sometimes tried playing with a ball or chasing his tail but the farmer shouted at him and said this was unacceptable behaviour for a dog. Despite this the dog was loyal to the farmer and was happy because the farmer had told him that his was the best .farm in the world and the dog believed the farmer.

  One day the circus came to town and that evening as the dog was patrolling the borders of the farm he saw a beautiful lady dog on the other side of the fence. She called to him but he ignored her as the farmer had told him that all dogs that didn't belong to the farm were evil. But the next night she was there again, and the next until finally the dog spoke to her and found out all about life outside the farm.

  So the farm dog ran away with the beautiful circus lady dog and they had good times and bad times but every day the farm dog spent some time playing with a ball and he never, ever, thought about the farm or the farmer again.
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  More boring baby stuff and wife's first birthday

  by Darkknight757 in

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  hello just giving a quick baby update again.

  we went for another growth scan yesterday which marks 26 weeks, 4 days and the genetics dr. felt that we needed to head to hospital for labor and delivery.

  so as of now the wife is being monitored and the hope is she can stay until delivery which hopefully will be a few weeks.

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  I hope all goes well for you and yours. That is a very touching story.

  I just feel sorry for that lonesome cake!
  
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  Can halluciengins reveal what has been hidden from us and bring more answers?

  by Bad_Wolf in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  halluciengins, and several recent studies pointed out how we us only certain sections of our brain depending what is happening.

  but some of them, like acid, make your entire brain turn on.

  heightened senses.

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  I've taken a fair few substances with hallucinogenic properties, LSD, Psilocybin, Salvia Divinorum etc. and I would say that although the experience is of an expanded consciousness with heightened senses, in practice your abilities are the same, or worse even. You don't actually become all seeing or all knowing, you just think you have. :)

  I don't mean to sound negative, I think it can be a hugely positive experience and you could learn an awful lot about yourself, it just isn't going to give you any epiphanies that aren't already inside your head.
  
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  Would You Outlaw Jehovah's Witnesses If You Had Your Way?

  by minimus in

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  i still believe in freedom of religion even if i disagree with the beliefsof the religion.

  what about you?.

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  Ban - no.

  Strip Tax exemption - Yes.

  Introduce law that makes shunning under 18's (21?) Child Abuse.

  Give it a year or two and the JW's would disappear all on their own.
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  Contrast Jesus and Einstein

  by venus in

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  jesus did not use his (superhuman) skills to prove the existence of either god or immortality of soul.

  further, he did not answer direct, important questions put to him (mathew 21:23-27; luke 22:70 …), and most importantly never defined ego—the root cause of all problems ….

  however, einstein, whose business was not spirituality, still defined ego as “optical illusion of consciousness.” this definition helps a lot because when one internalizes the idea that ego is only an illusion, he knows how to effectively deal with it.. .

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  Einstein said:" Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
  

  Jesus said: "When you pray, pray like this..."
  
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  Contrast Jesus and Einstein

  by venus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jesus did not use his (superhuman) skills to prove the existence of either god or immortality of soul.

  further, he did not answer direct, important questions put to him (mathew 21:23-27; luke 22:70 …), and most importantly never defined ego—the root cause of all problems ….

  however, einstein, whose business was not spirituality, still defined ego as “optical illusion of consciousness.” this definition helps a lot because when one internalizes the idea that ego is only an illusion, he knows how to effectively deal with it.. .

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  Einstein said: "God does not play dice with the universe."

  Jesus said: "Dad does not play dice with the universe."
  
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  What Happens If the JW Beard Policy Stumbles a Person

  by Cold Steel in

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  some of the videos on youtube really make the beard policy look ridiculous.

  i wondered what would happen if the jw beard policy caused someone to stumble?

  jesus most likely wore a beard, and charles taze russell had a beard.

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  @Bluesbrother: I agree, things have changed. All my (male) JW relatives have beards and most of them are in good standing in the Congo as far as I know. This is a fairly recent change though, certainly when I was still in, beards were anathema.

  The articles that you quoted don't actually help a guy who wants a beard but has elders that frown on them though. They're lots of words that add up to nothing.
  
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  What Happens If the JW Beard Policy Stumbles a Person

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some of the videos on youtube really make the beard policy look ridiculous.

  i wondered what would happen if the jw beard policy caused someone to stumble?

  jesus most likely wore a beard, and charles taze russell had a beard.

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  Drearyweather: "Similarly, when religious books are silent on certain matters, each religious group has the leeway to form their own rules on them. In fact, each congregation will have a separate unwritten law on this matter depending on their local culture."

  Leaving aside the question of why (Christian) religions would form extra rules when their leader clearly hated that kind of behaviour, as mentioned by someone else earlier the religious book does clearly state that men should grow beards. So an organisation which chooses, as is their right as you point out, to create a rule which has it's basis in nothing more than a mans opinion is not only ridiculous, it is unchristian.

  And as for your example of the guy that had a ponytail, a beard, tattoo's and stopped going to meetings... but still had JW friends? Baloney! I can give you an example though. I work for a national company that has no head office dress code. I have a beard and, until my wife cut it off Delilah-style, a ponytail.

  All that your example shows is that a company with good reason may have similar rules to a religious organisation with NO good reason. My example shows that companies without any good reason to ban beards... don't.
  

  In case you're interested my wife cut off my ponytail because I was whinging about it being uncomfortable in this heat. She got the kitchen scissors and just snipped it off while I was watching Pointless!