Posts by Onager

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God and the afterlife. Do you need to believe in both

by moley in

i consider myself an atheist, i completely reject the idea of a totalitarian desert god/any god and the bible is a book of fairytales and folk legends.. i do however sort of believe that this life is not all there is.

i’m not talking about heaven or hell but in a tangible state of being.. there are a few experiences i’ve had in my llife.

could be imagined could be real.

Onager

Hey Moley,

Have you read this book:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sum-Tales-Afterlives-David-Eagleman/dp/1847674275

I found it fascinating. There's so much possibility out there and we have no idea and no way of finding out what comes after and anyone that says they do know is a fraud.

I also found this article very interesting:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/dd52796e-5935-414e-af0c-de9686d02afa

It talks about the sensation of "Ego death" when taking DMT, which is somewhat analogous to dying but still being aware. It's all in your head of course, but it perhaps gives an insight into a world without you in it.

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J.W.`s and Paradise and the Reality of it.

by smiddy3 in

when god created adam and eve and put them in the garden of eden it was then up to them to cultivate and take care of it ,god had no further hand in it .the responsibility rested with adam/eve and their offspring.. the same would be true in the paradise to come ,god gets rid of all of us wicked people ,but then it is up to j.w.~s who are left on this earth to restore such a paradise.?

without god`s intervention.. think of it , this system is gone with all its infrastructure.. 8 million + j.w.`s scattered throughout the earth with.

no communication systems operating .

Onager

My main wake up moments were two stage. I realised that evolution was true but, more important was when I found out just how much the Creation book was misquoting and bending the facts to make it's arguments.

Then when I realised that the Flood story was impossible, I also realised that it fit in perfectly with the view of the world of the time.

People often talk of the puzzle pieces falling into place, but sometimes it's just as important how the puzzle pieces fit together.

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First year with baby!

by Darkknight757 in

i wanted to share a few recent pics of izabella with everyone.

this week marks her one year since her coming home from nicu.

she has been growing and changing so much these last few months in particular.

Onager

Beautiful little one! My boy would have died in childbirth if it wasn't for medical science and possibly my wife too. Thank goodness for the wonderful people of the NHS.

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J.W.`s and Paradise and the Reality of it.

by smiddy3 in

when god created adam and eve and put them in the garden of eden it was then up to them to cultivate and take care of it ,god had no further hand in it .the responsibility rested with adam/eve and their offspring.. the same would be true in the paradise to come ,god gets rid of all of us wicked people ,but then it is up to j.w.~s who are left on this earth to restore such a paradise.?

without god`s intervention.. think of it , this system is gone with all its infrastructure.. 8 million + j.w.`s scattered throughout the earth with.

no communication systems operating .

Onager

Could you give a summary of what prophecies you think are true? I'm not going to click on a link that could send me Dog knows where.

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J.W.`s and Paradise and the Reality of it.

by smiddy3 in

when god created adam and eve and put them in the garden of eden it was then up to them to cultivate and take care of it ,god had no further hand in it .the responsibility rested with adam/eve and their offspring.. the same would be true in the paradise to come ,god gets rid of all of us wicked people ,but then it is up to j.w.~s who are left on this earth to restore such a paradise.?

without god`s intervention.. think of it , this system is gone with all its infrastructure.. 8 million + j.w.`s scattered throughout the earth with.

no communication systems operating .

Onager

The problem is that Paradise is magic wavy hand land. Any problem can be waved away. Any logical inconsistency is smoothed over by the wizard in the sky.

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Who wrote the Bible?

by Ireneus in

the wordings suggest much of the bible is written by false friends of god.

to mention a few:.

1) god planted a special tree to pay the way for suffering and death into the lives of his children.. 2) god protected cain who murdered his innocent brother out of sheer jealousy.

Onager

Ireneus

I have no problem in identifying what is inherently and intrinsically good.

Yes, you make the choice, so you are the creator. Somebody could do exactly what you've done with the Bible with the Quran, or any other book, and achieve exactly the same result.

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The Kardashian women are double agents for the Patriarchy

by LoveUniHateExams in

it's absolutely true - jameela jamil said so in a channel 4 interview and guardian columnist frances ryan agrees.. kim kardashian promotes an appetite-suppressant lollipop to all her instagram followers ... because that's what the patriarchy (the male of the species) wants, right?.

kim k has her own ideas about health and beauty, and chooses to push that onto her followers?.

get real you mug.. actually, she's a double agent that seeks to do, not her own will, but the will of the patriarchy that sent her.. yep, god's honest.

Onager

Where do we get these appetite suppressing lollipops??!!

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Who wrote the Bible?

by Ireneus in

the wordings suggest much of the bible is written by false friends of god.

to mention a few:.

1) god planted a special tree to pay the way for suffering and death into the lives of his children.. 2) god protected cain who murdered his innocent brother out of sheer jealousy.

Onager

So you take the bible and you say "This bit isn't true, and this bit... and this whole section here. But this bit is the true and perfect word of God."

Congratulations, you have made your own bible. This means that the person who wrote the bible is you!

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Why not extend your child's life and take the consequences?

by I_love_Jeff in

jehovah's witnesses & blood transfusions.

if your son or daughter were badly burned, he or she would require regular whole blood transfusions.

as a good jehovah's witness, it is your duty to refuse this procedure and watch your child die instead.

Onager

This is why we are better and more moral than God (the god presented by the JW's). Not only does he demand that we let our children die, but he let his OWN child die. I would never send my child to die to repair the mess that I'd made of the garden of Eden situation, I'd take the responsibility myself.

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Creation, evolution, ???

by Freedom rocks in

was on the bus today and got into a discussion somehow with the driver and ok be ood his work colleagues about whether there's life in other planets, evolution and creation.

the driver believes there must be other life out there, i agree with him that life can't be unique to this planet out of the billions that exist.

his colleague who i think might be a jw by his attitude and reasoning skills thinks we're the only planet with life on it and it was made perfect and exact purposely for humans.

Onager

Getting a bit preachy there Perry.

Why are you bringing the bible into a scientific discussion? Any book that has a global flood story and the idea that you can breed stripey sheep by showing them stripey sticks has no place in a discussion about real things.