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  For any that still believe in God and Jesus, what is your reasoning on this matter?

  by BourneIdentity in

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  in the old testament, god was always full of anger and jealousy resulting in the murder of millions of people.

  we’re told jesus perfectly reflects his fathers qualities.

  why in the new testament does jesus show no hint of anger and jealousy and wanting to kill people?

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  The early Christian martyrs were not only believers of a faith that they would die for. They were witnesses. The apostles were witnesses of Jesus's resurrection and COULD not deny what they knew to be true. That is quite different from someone who has faith in their faith. Although both were martyrs, there's a major difference when you are a witness and know that it is false.

  Yasir ibn Amir al-ʿAnsī (Arabic: ياسر بن عامر العنسي‎) (sixth/seventh century C.E.) was an early companion of the Islamic prophet Muhammad. He is the second martyr in Islam, with the first being his wife, Sumayyah.[1]
  

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasir_ibn_Amir#Death_and_legacy
  

  Here's another quote from that page:
  

  But Yasir and his wife had no one to defend them; they bore no arms, and they were the most defenseless of all the martyrs of Islam. By sacrificing their lives, they highlighted the truth of Islam, and they built strength into its structure.
  

  Do you see that your evidence of the truth of Christianity is exactly the same type of evidence used to prove the truth of other religions? Obviously, this is cannot be evidence of either, or any, religion being true.
  
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  The problem with movies this last decade or so

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  actually, i think i've discovered two issues.. the first is that there are too many soft reboots, remakes and re-imaginings.

  don't get me wrong, hollywood has always done remakes and some remakes work very well.

  the fly (1986) and the thing (1982) are actually remakes/re-imaginings of the original 50s films.

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  I really enjoyed The Ballad of Buster Skruggs too. Not only was it proper story telling, but it was a whole bunch of top notch stories!
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  For any that still believe in God and Jesus, what is your reasoning on this matter?

  by BourneIdentity in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in the old testament, god was always full of anger and jealousy resulting in the murder of millions of people.

  we’re told jesus perfectly reflects his fathers qualities.

  why in the new testament does jesus show no hint of anger and jealousy and wanting to kill people?

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  TTWSYF:

  Respectfully, although you are right as far as each of us are not witness to personal and profound intimate communication / revelation with God, there is still a large amount of evidence.
  One example of evidence could be the way the apostles and 90% of the early Christians leaders were tortured to death is evidence. Why die for a lie? To what end?
  While it is possible for men to die for a lie, it is not possible for the lot of sinners that made up the apostles to go thru what they went through and not fold up if it were a lie in my opinion.If they KNEW it was a lie, they would have recounted when the blade started to peel their skin off of their bodies. It's common sense.

  Thank you for your response, but I'm sorry you are wrong to say that there is evidence for the existence of the biblical god. If there was any evidence then there would be only two types of people in the world: people who accepted the evidence and people who would rather die.

  Your example of the early Christian leaders being tortured to death is clearly wrong because we know that people have been martyred for beliefs which are contradictory to those of Christians. The Jews who accepted death by burning at the stake rather than convert to Christianity during the inquisition for example. Even to the point of refusing the final "mercy" from their Christian tormentors of being strangled before the fires were lit. Imagine the faith it would have taken to refuse a quick death and face the torment of the flames.

  All that martyrdom shows is that people will die for their beliefs, it provides no evidence that those beliefs are true.
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  I Am Now Officially an O.B.E member

  by smiddy3 in

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  hi friends ,.

  i just thought i should share with you my entry into the o.b.e.

  club on this 5th of july.not everybody makes it and to tell you the truth ,i never thought i would.

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  The three beers and a cake suggest birthday, but what then the acronym?

  I reckon the O is Old and the B is Bugger/Bastard/Badger, something like that, but what's the E? Enclave? Ensemble?
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  For any that still believe in God and Jesus, what is your reasoning on this matter?

  by BourneIdentity in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in the old testament, god was always full of anger and jealousy resulting in the murder of millions of people.

  we’re told jesus perfectly reflects his fathers qualities.

  why in the new testament does jesus show no hint of anger and jealousy and wanting to kill people?

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  There is no evidence that the god of the bible exists. So you believe without evidence and call this faith.

  There is no knowledge about the god of the bible that does not come from other men. You either read books or listen to speakers to gain knowledge about god.

  Therefore you do not have faith in god, but in men first. You have faith that what you have been told by these men is true.

  This leads to a logical contradiction because the bible says: Psalm 146:3 - "Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help."

  To believe in god you have to have faith in the men who wrote, translated, published and interpreted the bible for you, but the bible says not to trust them. So if you believe the bible, you can't believe the bible and if you believe in god it is because of your faith in men and nothing else.
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  I Am Now Officially an O.B.E member

  by smiddy3 in

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  hi friends ,.

  i just thought i should share with you my entry into the o.b.e.

  club on this 5th of july.not everybody makes it and to tell you the truth ,i never thought i would.

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  Order of the British Empire?
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  Are Witnesses advised not to get into discussion’s about evolution with HH?

  by Diogenesister in

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  just before the last memorial, i finally had a witness call with an invite ( i say finally because i haven’t seen anyone in the d 2 d preaching work for going on 5 years!)..

  i wasn’t particularly prepared ( it being early and me still in my nightie!

  ) but i managed to collect myself and said i didn’t think i wanted to go since i discovered the scandal around the un.....and i outlined the facts.. jw: oh no i don’t think so, where on earth did you read that?.

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  Believing in Evolution is what set's us apart from the animals...
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  One simple photo to sum up the heartless and hypocritical attitudes of many Jehovah's Witnesses

  by nicolaou in

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  this was taken in london yesterday by a twitter user still managing his fade so i can't be more specific than that.

  disgusting.

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  At least the guy on the floor is doing something constructive. Getting some shut-eye. The poor bastards by the carts are wasting their lives away in a trap that's harder to get out of than homelessness. If they did ignore him then they, unwittingly, did him the greatest favour they could.
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  Crazy humour.

  by zeb in

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  anyone recall the bbc-radio "goon show"?

  anyone at all?.

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  I had tapes of the Goons radio show. Listened to them over and over. You may hear me say "Winds light to variable" to this day...
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  There's nothing to watch on TV anymore ???

  by RubaDub in

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  do you find yourself, as i sometimes do, skimming through channels on the tv remote and not finding anything interesting to watch?.

  growing up, we only had four channels on our tv (nbc, cbs, abc and pbs).

  and yet there always seemed to be something of interest to see.. sadly, i often find myself watching shows where some guys are auctioning off storage lockers, killing alligators, picking junk from peoples' garages or barns, catching tuna, towing cars, driving trucks on the ice, catching crabs, running pawn shops ... etc etc etc.

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  I have a 4 year old and just scrolling through Netflix is problematic. Either he sees a scary image, some of the zombie shows have particularly gruesome cover pics or, even worse, he sees something like Peppa Pig or Wishenpoof and we have to watch that instead of something I might like..

  I've been watching a family quiz show with Dara O'Brian on BBC2 on TV recently, but after that I usually end up on the horror channel watching Star Trek re-runs or Diners Drive-ins and Dives on the Food Network. Until I get the controller taken off me and it's back to fecking kids shows again.

  I remember watching the Two Ronnies or Morecombe and Wise with my whole family on a Saturday evening when I was a kid. There doesn't seem to be that sort of general appeal TV any more, it's all niche.