Not quite forum related. But I moved from the UK to the USA 5 years ago, and I recently found out I have a cousin (my Great Granddad was brothers with his Granddad) and we only live 5 miles apart. My Grandmother lived in the USA as a child, and over 500 miles away from where I am now. Shows how small of a world it is.
Posts by jonza
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11Are you related to me?
by Coded Logic inthe chances that anyone on this forum is my biological brother or sister, purely from a statistical point of view, is rather low.
but how many generations back would we have to go to have a fair chance that one of my ancestors married one of your ancestors (or procreated anyway)?.
i was born in 1985. less than 20 years before my birth my two parents were being conceived by a combined 4 parents of their own.. and if we go back even further, to 40 years before my birth, then i'll find an additional 8 ancestors.. around the 60 year mark i have another 16 ancestors.
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Really beautiful Watchtower article about truth
by Anders Andersen inthis is the singlemost best watchtower article i have ever read.. it almost brought tears to my eyes (please note the almost ;-)).
"what is truth?
"this question is one which every sincere christian should ask and seek to answer.
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Reasons for Stagnation in Growth. AKA YearBook Numbers!
by ttdtt inso why has the growth flatlined?
why is less time spent in the ministry?
why have aux pios droped by 1/3rd?.
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jonza
I agree with Simon. I've updated my site with the latest stats: http://wttruth.com/category-31-WT%20Publishers
The rate of increase has slowed, but it is still an increase. Even if this starts a decrease it would have to be a massive % to really affect their numbers. Currently it looks like it might start to decrease in the next 3-5 years, so they have time to do something about that.
They also have almost 2 Billion hours preaching with even less % converts per hour. If only they would spend that time serving the community doing real charity work (never going to happen, I know), they actually might start having some real growth. That in my opinion, is the only way they could grow at this stage. My old church tried door knocking 50+ years ago and they quickly caught on it didn't work. Through their charitable work I've seen many people come in through the doors from that.
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Privacy
by Esmeralda001 ini need some advice guys.
how do you get people to mind their own buiseness without coming off as rude?.
i was invited to a jw gathering last night.
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jonza
"For example, if i'm in a car with other sisters and texting somone, the person next to me will look over my shoulder and read the conversation..." "an elder's wife asked if she could read the content of my notebook..."
Wow, that is a total invasion of privacy right there. I would have told them to back the f**k off. That's extremely rude, there's no way I would allow anyone to do that to me.
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Watchtower properties for sale website
by NewYork44M inhere is a great site in case anyone is interested in acquiring wt property in brooklyn heights.
https://www.watchtowerbrooklynrealestate.com/.
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jonza
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I'm Catholic and madly in love with a Jehovah Witness...
by Luge62 inwe are madly in love with each other and she is in the process of being divorced.
let me make one thing clear i'm not the reason for the divorce.
she attempted to reconcile with him but to no avail.
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jonza
It looks like she chose the organization over you. That's what the elders will basically force her to do. It's way better to find out now rather than in 1,10,20 years. You could still try and she may come back to you, but if she already chose them it's more likely she's totally in to it, and this would be a recurring thing. IMHO I would now run, she made her choice and you should make her stick to it. The only caveat to that for me would be, if she does come back to you, ask her to watch Steven Hassans combating mind control and ask her to do real research in to the organization before you would ever consider taking her back.. but be careful.. You should just save yourself of the trouble and more heartache now. -
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Give me 5 minutes to explain...
by pixel ini keep thinking about the time i will "come out" and tell my wife about this sick cult.
i don't know when that day will come, but knowing me i will seat down with her and ask her for 5 minutes to explain to her why we as a family has to get out.
my question is: what will you tell somebody in 5 minutes, that will convince that perdon that this is not a good religion to follow and that we have been deceived?.
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jonza
If it were me, I would come across as wanting to spiritually grow, and to tell her that I want us both to learn together, and truly understand everything we're being taught so we get grow closer to Jehovah together.. That would mean there would be no mental barriers go up and it would promote free thinking. Then approach a single subject at a time and in real depth. As you go through each one and realize this stuff just makes no sense or is based on lies or false evidence, hopefully it would just put too many doubts in their mind so that it cannot possibly the truth. No apostate material, just the Bible, WT material and the sources they site. Grab hard copies of the books they misquote with the 'innocent' intention of research and be shocked when it doesn't match up.. hopefully you can fake an awakening while they really wake up.
Just some suggestions. I had a similar approach when waking up my JW partner.
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Something interesting!
by John Aquila ini was invited to a small get-together by a long time friend.
we both served as elders for years.
he is in his late 70s.
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jonza
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I'm Catholic and madly in love with a Jehovah Witness...
by Luge62 inwe are madly in love with each other and she is in the process of being divorced.
let me make one thing clear i'm not the reason for the divorce.
she attempted to reconcile with him but to no avail.
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jonza
Luge62, I agree with Frazzled. I came to this site in a very similar situation, I was blind to most things JW even though I'd done a lot of research... that said, I didn't just run away as many people advised.. it's not that easy when you love someone as you know. But please listen still as this is not an easy path to follow. Fortunately I was able to wake my partner up to the truth about this cult, but it's still difficult. We live together but she has been shunned by all of her family for the past year, with no end in sight as she doesn't want to get reinstated.
That is what this cult does, it divides families and breaks apart homes. There's is nothing good in it. I'm sure you love your woman, but be prepared for a long hard road ahead. If you get together and she stays in the cult, she will be forever trying to convert you, and if you resist she will start seeing you as belonging to satan. My partner thought for the longest time I was sent by satan to bring her out of the religion, that was pretty shocking to hear later on once she had woken up. She now feels bad that she thought that way, but it's how she was trained to think. Anyone not a JW is part of satans world..
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WiFi problems? Want a faster network? Try Powerline Adapters!
by Simon inwifi is great.
it's so easy and convenient.
but it can be slow.. years ago when it first came out you maybe had a pc and a couple of other devices at most.
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jonza
I have a couple of these and can confirm they're really good!