i would love to know the stats of how many hours were spent, standing by a cart, or sitting at a local town fair with jw table tent set up, compared to the number of bible studies started that led to baptism since the inception of the carts.
anyone have any idea?
if i had to guess i would say thousands of hours pent standing by a cart, and maybe less then 5 that actually got baptized.
As said before, never see dubs talk to anyone but to each other. Just came back from Italy and seen them in many different towns with their cart full of literature...never seen anyone ever stopping,not even interested in making eye contact with anyone.
Nice and easy way to count time.
i say no.. although the tetragrammaton appears close to 7000 times in the hebrew scriptures, the personal name of god does not.
seems to me that god made sure that both that his personal name does not appear therein and that no one would ever actually know it or learn even how to pronounce it.
he also made sure that his name (baring 3 hallelujahs in revelation) did not appear in the new testament.
If it was extremely important, life and death important it would have been used by Jesus and the apostles.
Jesus never used it, called him Father.
JW use his name every other second and that's not what we see in the Greek Scriptures.
so it's official, i am happy to report that we merged with another congregation having the same problem.
why is it good news???
because people are either waking up, fading or just not buying into this organization any longer or walking away.... i think many young ones are just not buying into it as much, i see many in the congregation i go to very depressed and some i know personally going thru major depression especially the young "sisters" in their early 20s.... .
Have seen it happening twice.
Once in Brookfield Il. when in 1984 one became two and then around 2008 became one again.
Happened to be in another congregation in Franklin Tn and same thing happened.
There is hardly any growth, only a few young ones getting baptized.
i know marriage is tough and it takes work on both parts.
we have been together for 27 years.
the last eight have been involved with this cult.
After 32 years in the cult i woke up and my marriage of 26 years fell apart. She was a freaking nut that always put the GB first in everything.
Best thing that happened to me when she left because she did not want to live with an apostate.
At 55 started a new and great life and met a wonderful, reasonable woman that i live with.
Don't waste more time
my name is eric hendrickson.
i have been on a journey led by the holy spirit which has brought to this point that has allowed for me to open the seventh seal and understand god's master plan.
i am the lion from the lost tribe of judah who has come to the world and be the messiah king.
hi people,.
i want as much data as possible on the effect of the internet on the time captured by the cult.. please answer the three following questions about yourself or about someone you know (for example, if your parents or grandparents were jw's and left).
1) were you raised as a jw, or did you convert?.
1) were you raised as a JW, or did you convert?
Convert
2) when were you baptized/started seriously being with the witnesses? (Date please, i.e. 1997)
in 1975 at 22 years of age
3) when did you leave/woke up completely? (date please, i.e. 2013)
Left in 2007 after 32 years
this may have been discussed before.
the costs for using the assembly hall for a one day last saturday was $12,000 with another assembly for the other half of the circuit on sunday, which will ring up another $12,000.
if the assembly was for two days the friends might roll their eyes if it were announced the costs for the two days was $24,000.
Romeoville assembly in Chicago built around 1988-1990. Worked on it for two years
Paid for in a few years by the brothers.
They have made millions on that one in the last 25 years.
this may have been discussed before.
the costs for using the assembly hall for a one day last saturday was $12,000 with another assembly for the other half of the circuit on sunday, which will ring up another $12,000.
if the assembly was for two days the friends might roll their eyes if it were announced the costs for the two days was $24,000.
WTF
$12000 to $22000 a day. Most of the assembly halls have no mortgages on it, they are paid for already.
So how in the hell can it cost that kind of money when the society provides nothing.
They pay no taxes on the buildings, all the work is done by volunteers, no food, the only thing is water at drinking fountains, toilets being flushed, toilet paper and electricity.
Thieves, that's what they are.
a family member who is a bethelite informed me today that there is a letter to be read soon ( this week or next) concerning the downsizing.
so probably someone who has their midweek meeting early in the week will be able to fill in the details.
The society can do no wrong and since it's coming from GB Jehovah is backing them up.
Jehovah knows what is doing...check his record of the last 140 years dealing the people he picked.
And that's what every JW verbally has to confess....down deep in their hearts they know it"s a load of crap. .
at the latest co visit something very strange happened.
during the meeting with the elders and servants he passed out a copy of a hypothetical publisher card and asked us what we could learn from it.
upon receiving it i saw that the average hours were pretty good, it had return visits and quite a few bible studies.
Nothing new...it's been going on for decades. Was an elder for 21 years and when i look back at those meetings with the CO it was disgusting how some very good brothers, hard working brothers that were struggling in providing for their families and were always willing to help out on weekends when they were needed for their skills at the KH, yet they used to be looked down by others just because they were only turning in 5 hours a month,
They were not exemplary in the congregation and were not even able to carry the mikes.
Sick organization or should i say a sick cult.
