yogosans14
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Jesus Saves From What? March 2015 Watchtower Article
by Perry ini just skimmed the titled article on jw.org and once again the watchtower is misdirecting:.
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20150301/jesus-death-and-resurrection/ .
they try and make the old case that jesus saves us from being destroyed at armageddon.
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No Christians wants anyone to go to Hell. That's the point of sharing the Gospel. -
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Jesus Saves From What? March 2015 Watchtower Article
by Perry ini just skimmed the titled article on jw.org and once again the watchtower is misdirecting:.
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20150301/jesus-death-and-resurrection/ .
they try and make the old case that jesus saves us from being destroyed at armageddon.
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yogosans14
1 Thessalonians 5:23English Standard Version (ESV)
23 Now may the God of peace himself sanctify you completely, and may your whole spirit and soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Also paul said to be absent from the body present with the Lord. Our spirits or souls is what departs when we die. James said the body without the spirit is dead. In revelation John saw the souls of those who had been martyred for there faith in Christ.
Our spirits are made perfect when we are born again, so we can thus be in the prescence of God at death. On reserruction day our souls will reunite with our glorified bodies.Hebrews 12:23New International Version (NIV)
23 to the church of the firstborn, whose names are written in heaven. You have come to God, the Judge of all, to the spirits of the righteous made perfect,
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Jesus Saves From What? March 2015 Watchtower Article
by Perry ini just skimmed the titled article on jw.org and once again the watchtower is misdirecting:.
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20150301/jesus-death-and-resurrection/ .
they try and make the old case that jesus saves us from being destroyed at armageddon.
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yogosans14
Perry..God bless you. The Lord has opened you eyes from the bondag did the WT society. Yes "perish" would be better since the Greek text literally says it. I showed this to a JW and his answer was "well we don't speak Greek, we're talking about English" I face palmed so hard. Yes the spirit is immortal. Paul said we are Soul, Spirit, and Body a tri part being.
not sure why so many EX jws are attacking you. It's your belief, but I think a lot of them are in this "if watchtower isn't the truth then nothing is" mentality. I could be wrong it that's it seems to me.
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YouTube video: Ex Jehovah's Witness becomes Catholic!
by yogosans14 inhttp://youtu.be/lvjyq6drtl0.
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Have you noticed that the Mormon and JW websites try to appeal as looking "normal" and "mainstream"
by yogosans14 inhttp://beta.mormon.org.
for instance look at the mormon website versus jw.org.
they both look colorful and try to paint themselves as "normal everyday people" and they don't fully explain all there beliefs for obvious reasons.
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For instance look at the Mormon website versus JW.org
they both look colorful and try to paint themselves as "normal everyday people" and they don't fully explain all there beliefs for obvious reasons. Now the BORG with this JW broadcasting (which even mormonism has something similar to this) are doing trying to appeal to the masses as normal. I find this rather funny because the BORG has always tried to present itself as "different from everybody else"
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Going inside "Christendoms evil churches" after abandoning the BORG
by yogosans14 inafter i was done with the wt and its unbiblical teachings i went to other churches.
first i went to a roman catholic church after reading many of the early church father writings (which btw all of them affirm the trinity) and as i first went in i thought i was literally going to burst in flames or become posssed by a demon!but as i went in the church had a nice smell to it and i sat down in the back pew and the church was very full.
the service was beautiful, there was 4 bible readings and a sermon and the priest talked about being a light to the world and living like christ and it was a very uplifting sermon considering i used to think catholics were idol worshipers and never read the bible.
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After I was done with the WT and its unbiblical teachings I went to other churches. First I went to a Roman Catholic church after reading many of the early church father writings (which btw all of them affirm the Trinity) and as I first went in I thought I was literally going to burst in flames or become posssed by a demon!but as I went in the church had a nice smell to it and I sat down in the back pew and the church was very full. The service was beautiful, there was 4 bible readings and a sermon and the priest talked about being a light to the world and living like Christ and it was a very uplifting sermon considering I used to think Catholics were idol worshipers and never read the bible. Anyways I got confused since people in the church were kneeling and as people were going up to receive communion some were crying with tears of joy!i was shocked and said to myself "wow these so called idol worshipers really do care about God and have a relationship with him".
Anyways after doing more bible reading I didn't agree with all Roman Catholic doctrines and I find myself leaning towards the baptist theology. There's a baptist church near me that I attend and the preacher is very nice and focuses on doing good things for the communities (shocking since they believe once saved always saved which in JDUB language that means they are lazy Christians).
my point to this is that the JW idea that "christendoms churches" are evil and idolatrous is so false. I've never been more happy in churches then the kingdom halls before. I have met some very nice Christians who really care about Jesus and others.
After you you left have you went to any churches??
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Is the organization actually gaining more members or losing more?
by yogosans14 inlast time i was at the kingdom hall they were praising themselves about all the growth in members they have been having.
is this "growth" they are having statistically accurate?or are a lot leaving?
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Last time I was at the Kingdom Hall they were praising themselves about all the growth in members they have been having. Is this "growth" they are having statistically accurate?or are a lot leaving? -
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Why do I suddenly want to start reading JW literature and going to Kingdom Halls?
by yogosans14 inis good calling me back or am i just letting my emotions get the best of me?also i really want to be closer to my jw family.
btw i was never baptized and i consider myself a born again christian i go to a baptist church and wath televangelist and i have expirenced gods presence like never before but sometimes i get fearful and think "what if jws are right and i'm wrong" than i'm screwed!but if there wrong and i'm right it doesn't look to good for them.. i would prefer if nobody posted "god isn't real" type comments.
i truly believe he is real but i respect why some are atheists..
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Miles lol nope -
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Why do I suddenly want to start reading JW literature and going to Kingdom Halls?
by yogosans14 inis good calling me back or am i just letting my emotions get the best of me?also i really want to be closer to my jw family.
btw i was never baptized and i consider myself a born again christian i go to a baptist church and wath televangelist and i have expirenced gods presence like never before but sometimes i get fearful and think "what if jws are right and i'm wrong" than i'm screwed!but if there wrong and i'm right it doesn't look to good for them.. i would prefer if nobody posted "god isn't real" type comments.
i truly believe he is real but i respect why some are atheists..
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Yes I do and thank you! I think this all started because memorial is coming up and I have to go with my Jw family... -
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Trying to find Faith
by Lostfromthefaith inhi im a 14 year old former catholic trying to find a religion and or faith my parents will drop me off at a service they support me no matter what i was wondering if anyone can prove to me their is a god cause right now im confused!
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yogosans14
Yes, God is real. But to first off all have a relationship with God you need to repent of your sins and ask Jesus to be your Lord and Savoir, then you will be reconciled to God. If you do this you will become a Born again.
What does it mean to be a born-again Christian? The classic passage from the Bible that answers this question is John 3:1-21. The Lord Jesus Christ is talking to Nicodemus, a prominent Pharisee and member of the Sanhedrin (the ruling body of the Jews). Nicodemus had come to Jesus at night with some questions. As Jesus talked with Nicodemus, He said, “‘I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.’ ‘How can a man be born when he is old?’ Nicodemus asked. ‘Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother’s womb to be born!’ Jesus answered, ‘I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. You should not be surprised at my saying, “You must be born again”’” (John 3:3-7). The phrase "born again" literally means "born from above." Nicodemus had a real need. He needed a change of his heart—a spiritual transformation. New birth, being born again, is an act of God whereby eternal life is imparted to the person who believes (2 Corinthians 5:17; Titus 3:5; 1 Peter 1:3; 1 John 2:29; 3:9; 4:7; 5:1-4, 18). John 1:12, 13 indicates that being "born again" also carries the idea of "becoming children of God" through trust in the name of Jesus Christ. The question logically comes, "Why does a person need to be born again?" The apostle Paul in Ephesians 2:1 says, "And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins" (NKJV). To the Romans he wrote, "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23). Sinners are spiritually “dead”; when they receive spiritual life through faith in Christ, the Bible likens it to a rebirth. Only those who are born again have their sins forgiven and have a relationship with God. How does that come to be? Ephesians 2:8-9 states, "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast." When one is saved, he/she has been born again, spiritually renewed, and is now a child of God by right of new birth. Trusting in Jesus Christ, the One who paid the penalty of sin when He died on the cross, is the means to be "born again." "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation: the old has gone, the new has come!" (2 Corinthians 5:17). If you have never trusted in the Lord Jesus Christ as your Savior, will you consider the prompting of the Holy Spirit as He speaks to your heart? You need to be born again. Will you pray the prayer of repentance and become a new creation in Christ today? "Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God" (John 1:12-13). If you want to accept Jesus Christ as your Savior and be born again, here is a sample prayer. Remember, saying this prayer or any other prayer will not save you. It is only trusting in Christ that can save you from sin. This prayer is simply a way to express to God your faith in Him and thank Him for providing for your salvation. "God, I know that I have sinned against you and am deserving of punishment. But Jesus Christ took the punishment that I deserve so that through faith in Him I could be forgiven. I place my trust in You for salvation. Thank You for Your wonderful grace and forgiveness—the gift of eternal life! Amen!"