DD,
I don't believe in "Jehovah of the Watchtower" either.
I have a firm opinion on who the real "god" of the Watchtower actually is.
Just sayin'.
look...i am not an atheist.
even so, i have never had one prayer answered my entire life.
the only thing that would even come close was learning ttatt.
DD,
I don't believe in "Jehovah of the Watchtower" either.
I have a firm opinion on who the real "god" of the Watchtower actually is.
Just sayin'.
http://www.americanprofessional.com/clergy/.
elders don't qualify for clergy malpractice insurance, even if they wanted it.
no divinity school degree.. .
I'm not sure where I read it, but I saw somewhere that the society has just recently said they will no longer be backing the elders when child abuse claims come out, etc. and that the elders are on their own if it goes to court. No lawyer backing from HQ. I'm not sure where I saw it. Maybe on a post here or JWSurvey...I'll have to find it again.
i am so happy to be out of the cult.
i would never go back!
i don't know some still could accept this religion, be here, regularly and not just get out..
lriddle80,
I can totally relate. Showing scripture has definitely backfired with my family. It also doesn't seem to be working with other witnesses that I and a group of people are trying to talk to on a website. They really are blind. They can't comprehend very simple things in scripture. They pretty well hate us and are very rude, and my family seems to be headed in that direction too.
Like you, I found Jesus and the real gospel and I couldn't be happier. The freedom and simplicity in Christ is life-altering. I also attend an incredible Baptist church. They preach the real gospel, not some other doctrine, and they are my family. All I can do is pray for my literal family and for all JWs, which I do constantly. In God's due time, if it is His will, He will open their eyes. Until then, all we can is pray and do our best to keep speaking and making known our Lord Jesus.
i am a newly unbaptised publisher.
recently i found out i need to have major surgery and the jw's tried to rush a blood card in my hand.
i was so relieved when the elders said i could not have one until i was baptised.. but they rushed to get me copies of the blood videos.
Very glad to hear that it went well! Get plenty of rest and take care of yourself! (hugs)
i am so happy to be out of the cult.
i would never go back!
i don't know some still could accept this religion, be here, regularly and not just get out..
I was a born-in. I just wish I could completely scrub my brain. Some of it never truly leaves you.
I'm trying to get my family out. NO success. They're very devout. My mom started texting me earlier with some scriptures to look at that prove some stuff about the 'paradise'. Which they didn't. But she was doing this because I asked how it would be paradise if you have to....bury bodies, clean up rubble from billions of destroyed houses and buildings, rebuild houses, preach to the resurrected, etc. for who knows how long. I told her that if the JWs are taught they will have to rebuild the earth, doing all this will take hundreds of years before the paradise is as depicted in the literature. And during this time, where will they all live, how will they have medications since there would be no pharmacies or pharmaceutical companies...perfect health isn't instant and people need medications just to stay alive. Perfection in general isn't immediate so this paradise earth will still have sin and death... you get the picture. Her proof scriptures were silly. I ended up calling her and showing her a few scriptures of my own that throw out some WT teachings. She ended up completely cutting me off and telling me a) I'm a stupid apostate and b) she and the rest of my JW family will not be speaking to me anymore if I can't say very nice things about the WTBTS. So sad when your family loves the Satan-backed organization more than the family member that loves them no matter what.
So anyway, I am HAPPY to be out. I'll be much happier if they ever learn TTATT and get out too.
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CC,
Thanks so much. I know for a fact that these images exist. I, and others, have found way too many for it to ever be considered a coincidence. Any information you have would be greatly appreciated. I appreciate what you have posted thus far. I do wonder about the artist department person you guys are talking about. Of course, I have no doubt that even if they were no longer associated with WTBTS, they would still deny it because it's quite illegal.
Something in the most recent letter stood out to me. He said that if you know something could be present, it is much easier to see. I agree completely. These types of images aren't really noticeable on a conscious level. They hit your subconscious though. I think that may be the point of them. We have found pornographic images in the literature. On a subconscious level, you're thinking about those things without realizing why. It could be why so many get DF...just a theory. Anyway, if you do know that there is a possibility an image is hidden, you can spot it very easily without much experience. They really start to jump off the page.
look...i am not an atheist.
even so, i have never had one prayer answered my entire life.
the only thing that would even come close was learning ttatt.
You can believe whatever you'd like. I will respect it. I'm not telling you to believe in God, or prayer. You do whatever you feel is right for you. I would at least hope for the same respect. I had enough BS disrespect as a witness to last a lifetime. I, like a lot of people, don't come here for more of the same.
I'm sorry, but I can't answer your questions. I can't explain or know what would happen with any of it. I can only share my own little personal story, which I thought was the point of this topic.
look...i am not an atheist.
even so, i have never had one prayer answered my entire life.
the only thing that would even come close was learning ttatt.
Captain Obvious, the doctor is an incredible guy. I think he's a miracle worker for his excellence in my surgery. It was supposed to take four hours. It only took one.
I apologize, I should have been more clear with this. I had a doctor's appointment with another doctor and at the last minute, they switched me to the doctor from Canada. If I had seen the other doctor, he wouldn't have been able to do anything for me.
Sure, God made the disease. He lets people suffer too, for various reasons. I can't answer why. I can't answer why some people have prayers answered. I'm not God. I'm simply sharing my story. People can take it or leave it, but it won't change my opinion.
I'm spending every possible moment I can now doing what I feel I need to be doing, which is trying to get people out of this cult. I've also been able to go back to volunteering my time for places like the Salvation Army and helping others in need. My attitude is not, "Oh awesome, God answered my prayers! I'm healed! I'm going to go do whatever I want now!" Nope. I'm actively spending all my time trying to help people in any way I can. Before my surgery, I didn't even care about helping myself, much less someone else. So yeah, it has made a difference.
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That's awesome. I sent that to someone who is taking all kinds of crap from people that say they're making it up.
look...i am not an atheist.
even so, i have never had one prayer answered my entire life.
the only thing that would even come close was learning ttatt.
In October of last year, I was dying. Literally. It was because of a rare brain disease. I won't bore you with symptoms, but it was horrible. I suffered from debilitating pain, seizures, all kinds of stuff that was almost unimaginable. I couldn't drive because of seizures, I could barely leave my house because of pain. It was truly the lowest point of my life and I didn't care anymore if I lived or died. Horrible, really, is an understatement. I couldn't find a doctor to do the surgery I needed. I saw at least a dozen in my state and I also went out of state. I tried all kinds of medications with no success. I had a big group of people praying for me at church, but I wasn't giving God control. I thought I could figure it out myself. I was a believer at this time, but I just had it in my head that I could do it all myself.
Finally, after all these doctors and meds, I decided to give up. I gave it to God, and decided to just let go and what happened would happen. I had one last doctor's appointment with a man I had never heard of that moved from Canada a couple days before. The day before the appointment, I almost cancelled it, but something told me not to. So I went. I went in to meet the doctor, talked to him for about five minutes, and he said, "I've reviewed your case already, we need to do surgery right now. No more messing around." I had a brain surgery two days later. I recovered almost immediately and I've never been better.
Once I decided to give it to God and I, myself, started praying, God sent me an amazing Neurosurgeon. After so many years of struggle and pain and almost dying, I have my life back. I know without a doubt that God hears prayer and answers exactly what we need. Sometimes it may not be right when we want it because God has a time for everything, or even in the way we expect, but He never abandons us. He is always with us, even if we feel we don't need Him sometimes. After all that, I decided to put absolutely everything in God's hands. He has shown me how much I can handle, how strong I really am, and He has been working in my life in some major ways ever since.
This wasn't my only prayer ever answered, but it was by far the greatest.