Following the initial publicity for this multi-million pound sale sell-off - as highlighted here and here some three months ago....
The sale process has been progressing with Tender Dates announced:
Green Court (Residential Apartments):
Best and final bids invited by Monday 19th December 2016 at 5pm
No.1 Elstree Way:
Expressions of Interest and Initial Bids by Friday 3rd February 2017 at 5pm
IBSA House:
Expressions of Interest and Initial Bids by Friday 3rd March 2017 at 5pm
Watch Tower House:
Expressions of Interest and Initial Bids by Friday 31st March 2017 at 5pm
Conference Centre & Open Field:
Expressions of Interest and Initial Bids by Friday 31st March 2017 at 5pm
Manor Point Units 1 & 2:
This Property will be available for sale with vacant possession in early 2020
Buttermere Court (Residential Apartments):
Bidding details to be announced
Ullswater Court (Residential Apartments):
Bidding details to be announced
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COUNTDOWN! - The Great London Bethel Sell-off!
by darkspilver infollowing the initial publicity for this multi-million pound sale sell-off - as highlighted here and here some three months ago....the sale process has been progressing with tender dates announced:green court (residential apartments):best and final bids invited by monday 19th december 2016 at 5pmno.1 elstree way:expressions of interest and initial bids by friday 3rd february 2017 at 5pmibsa house:expressions of interest and initial bids by friday 3rd march 2017 at 5pmwatch tower house:expressions of interest and initial bids by friday 31st march 2017 at 5pmconference centre & open field:expressions of interest and initial bids by friday 31st march 2017 at 5pmmanor point units 1 & 2:this property will be available for sale with vacant possession in early 2020buttermere court (residential apartments):bidding details to be announcedullswater court (residential apartments):bidding details to be announced.
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USA: Kingdom Hall listed in LoopNet
by sp74bb inmore kingdom hall listed for sale:.
http://www.loopnet.com/locations/kingdom-hall-of-jehovah%27s-witnesses/listings/.
when are we going to see more listed...?
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darkspilver
Hi sp74bb
@SadElder unfortunately so true. Our brother Darkspilver has pointed to an updated KH listed.
And don't forget The Searcher's list of 35 Kingdom Halls JUST in London! .... the 1st January 2017 is just days away now!!....
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France: Where all donations are going? Germany?
by sp74bb insource: http://www.journal-officiel.gouv.fr/publications/assoccpt/pdf/2015/3108/398996694_31082015.pdf.
"nothing is hidden.
jehovah's eyes sees everything.
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darkspilver
Firstly, it seems that sp74bb's subtext was to show up the French for being somewhat 'tight' with money....
But, then secondly
DesirousOfChange: That's the first thing I noticed as well!! A 30% drop in donations! WOW! No wonder they begging and groveling for kids' ice cream money!
A surprise? Hmmm, I explained how the WT are actually very effectively disincentivizing donations in a post I made around two months ago
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France: Where all donations are going? Germany?
by sp74bb insource: http://www.journal-officiel.gouv.fr/publications/assoccpt/pdf/2015/3108/398996694_31082015.pdf.
"nothing is hidden.
jehovah's eyes sees everything.
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darkspilver
Hey sp74bb!
2015: 6.950.000 EUR
Where all millions of EUR from French JW have gone? Germany?Lets try some maths
6,950,000 EUR
divide by
125,000 average number of French publishers
=
Average donation of US$1.14 per publisher per week
I presume this is donated by publishers to cover such things as the production, printing and shipping of all publications - (magazines, workbooks, song books, bibles etc etc) that they receive for their own use and for use in the ministry?Now try comparing that to Britain
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RC 2017
by wifibandit indue to last years success, i will post everything related to the 2017 regional convention in this thread.. to start us off.... thanks to exjw reddit user ich3b we have advance notice of the theme (this is not a joke!).
the theme for the 2017 regional convention is: "don’t give up!” .
as always, if you have access to confidential materials you would like to leak but need to protect your identity, pm me or email me: wifibandit1 (at) gmail.
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darkspilver
Hey blondie!
1992 called. They want their theme back.
hmmm, I think that is a cultural music reference, rather than a theocratic one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDqs8B21ZQg
From the 1:55 mark:
Jesus came into this world so all men may be found
In the soul of all humanity
Ev'ry time I stumble on the road to Calvary
Oh my love don't give up on me.
In the dying embers of the midnight hour
All these things brought me misery
In the dying embers of the midnight hour
Oh my love don't give up on me
Oh my love don't give up on me
My sweet Lord don't give up on me. -
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UK Derbyshire - Historical Child Abuse
by darkspilver inhttp://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/derbyhsire-child-rapist-tried-to-bribe-victim-into-keeping-quiet/story-30003131-detail/story.html.
seems that the victim told both her family and gp (doctor) when she was 16 - but doctor did not report to authorities.michelle brown, defending john madin, said her client committed the offences "when he was a much younger man.
there is little mitigation is such cases.
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darkspilver
Seems that the victim told both her family and GP (doctor) when she was 16 - BUT doctor did not report to authorities.Michelle Brown, defending John Madin, said her client committed the offences "when he was a much younger man. There is little mitigation is such cases. He accepts he was looking for love and affection and appreciates he took it too far. It is right to say that the defendant became a Jehovah's witness in 2011 and there is no suggestion there has been any other offending of this nature over the past 30 years."
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USA: Kingdom Hall listed in LoopNet
by sp74bb inmore kingdom hall listed for sale:.
http://www.loopnet.com/locations/kingdom-hall-of-jehovah%27s-witnesses/listings/.
when are we going to see more listed...?
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darkspilver
Hey sp74bb!
More Kingdom Hall listed for sale:
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Which one/s? They all appear to be old listings from between 2007 and 2013?
Some of those listed appear to still be KHs.
The website says there are NO active listings of KHs for sale - why?.....
I did post the details of a currently for sale Kingdom Hall in the following thread:
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5168105410002944/pruning-kingdom-halls
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TV - Revealed: JWs in the Philippines - Investigative Documentaries
by darkspilver innote: although some of the interviews in the following video are in english, the majority is in tagalog/filipino, if that's a problem please don't watch it.. investigative documentaries: jws in the philippines.
broadcast on thursday 22 december 2016 on the gma news tv in the philippines.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mydu2bq-lwm.
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darkspilver
NOTE: Although some of the interviews in the following video are in English, the majority is in Tagalog/Filipino, if that's a problem please don't watch it.
Investigative Documentaries: JWs in the Philippines
Broadcast on Thursday 22 December 2016 on the GMA News TV in the Philippines
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Regional Kickbacks to WTS for Conventions
by Simon ini guess tax payers get to subsidize the conventions, who knew!.
https://user-cb2rbzy.cld.bz/jehovah-s-witnesses-2017-regional-convention/4.
no wonder they really push people to book through the congregation rather than privately, directly - it's all about the rebates!.
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darkspilver
Incentivizing events to be held at particular venues is standard.
It's pure economics - it seems that Alberta has the lowest personal taxes in all of Canada?
http://www.albertacanada.com/business/overview/low-personal-taxes.aspx
By providing an incentive, the local government will factor in the the cost benefits - hotel room tax, money spend while in the venue town - shops, food, restuarants, museums, galleries, transport etc etc - sure some events will bring in more dollars, others less. But, unless you've got events queuing up to use your venue, a venue full of JWs is probably better than an empty venue - both for the local government and the local businesses..
Remember there is also the benefit of indirect tax - the income tax etc you get from the people employed by the venue, hotels, local businesses and transport.
Sometimes I believe a local government will effectively sponsor a venue and related hotels and businesses - for example by guaranteeing that the venue will be used a set number of days-per-year.
On a smaller scale, it's like you personally organising an event at a local bar - the bar provides you with the room at either low or no cost as the bar expects to makes it's money from selling drinks and food to the people you are bringing in. The bar also does not expect your guests to buy their drinks from the bar next door!
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RC 2017
by wifibandit indue to last years success, i will post everything related to the 2017 regional convention in this thread.. to start us off.... thanks to exjw reddit user ich3b we have advance notice of the theme (this is not a joke!).
the theme for the 2017 regional convention is: "don’t give up!” .
as always, if you have access to confidential materials you would like to leak but need to protect your identity, pm me or email me: wifibandit1 (at) gmail.
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darkspilver
DO NOT GIVE UP!
Watchtower 1 June 2005, page 29
Watchtower 15 November 2002, page 4
Watchtower 15 August 2001, page 25
Watchtower 1 January 1998, page 6
Watchtower 1 December 1995, page 9
Watchtower 15 January 1991, page 23
Watchtower 15 July 1988, page 9