the 2014 - 2015 jw statistics showed a peak publisher decline of 884 with the average publisher tally showing a gain of 183. .
the 2017 yearbook is now available via jw.org and the statistics for britain show a 2016 peak publisher increase of 630 and an average publisher increase of a paltry 26!.
nothing to shout about on the part of the followers of caiaphas in the britain branch.
If they were tracking population increase they should have added at least 17 thousand.
How are you doing the calculation?
Population increased 14% over 20 years
Equivalent JW increase at 14%, to keep track, would mean 142,070
That's just another way of doing my original calculation which used the ratio and got 141,929 (small difference due to calculation rounding?) ?
How do you get 17,000? Do you mean if they where increasing PLUS keeping up / tracking the population?
the 2014 - 2015 jw statistics showed a peak publisher decline of 884 with the average publisher tally showing a gain of 183. .
the 2017 yearbook is now available via jw.org and the statistics for britain show a 2016 peak publisher increase of 630 and an average publisher increase of a paltry 26!.
nothing to shout about on the part of the followers of caiaphas in the britain branch.
In real terms, over the last twenty years in Britain, there has been a 5.5% decrease in publisher numbers.
The JWs in Britain would need to have a monthly average of 141,929 publishers reporting to be the same (ie no increase/decrease) publisher-to-population ratio as they where during the 1996 Service Year (instead of the current 134,517 average publishers)
the 2014 - 2015 jw statistics showed a peak publisher decline of 884 with the average publisher tally showing a gain of 183. .
the 2017 yearbook is now available via jw.org and the statistics for britain show a 2016 peak publisher increase of 630 and an average publisher increase of a paltry 26!.
nothing to shout about on the part of the followers of caiaphas in the britain branch.
darkspilver that looks more comprehensive. How did you get that information?
No secret, just from jw.org.....
The congregation search facility on jw.org appears to have two 'limiters' on the results you get - a maximum number and a maximum distance:
Firstly it limits any search to a maximum of 100 results
Secondly it limits search results to a maximum distance - from a quick check this appears to be 100 miles
This means that Nicholaus Kopernicus' 'problem' wasn't a max number of results, but a max distance issue
Remember that the search facility is really only meant to find a congregation meeting in a particular language close to a particular point to which you can travel to and attend - so the limits actually seem generous - WT wants the search facility to have a quick response time, so they don't want to overload the backend with more calculations etc being done than is needed in a 'real-world' situation.
Which also means I've found three more Polish congregations in Britain:
48: Bristol, Polish
49: Paignton, Polish
50: Cheltenham, Polish
the 2014 - 2015 jw statistics showed a peak publisher decline of 884 with the average publisher tally showing a gain of 183. .
the 2017 yearbook is now available via jw.org and the statistics for britain show a 2016 peak publisher increase of 630 and an average publisher increase of a paltry 26!.
nothing to shout about on the part of the followers of caiaphas in the britain branch.
This high immigration is reflected in the increasing numbers of foreign language groups and congregations in Britain. For example...
Polish - 32
That seems a significant drop post-brexit?
EDIT: I think you've mis-read the jw.org search facility?
This is my list of Polish congregations (excluding groups attached to other congregations)
1: Aberdeen, Polish
2: Bedford, Polish
3: Bicester, Polish
4: Birmingham, Polish
5: Bournemouth, Polish
6: Bracknell, Polish
7: Brighton, Polish
8: Chester, South
9: Corby, Polish Central
10: Coventry, Polish
11: Coventry, Polish
12: Crawley, Polish
13: Dartford, Polish
14: Derby, Polish
15: Edinburgh, Polish
16: Glasgow, Polish North
17: Glasgow, Polish South
18: Hull, Polish
19: Inverness, Polish
20: King's Lynn, Polish
21: Leeds, Polish
22: Leicester, Polish
23: Liverpool, Polish
24: London, Polish Central
25: London, Polish Debden
26: London, Polish East
27: London, Polish Hillingdon
28: London, Polish North
29: London, Polish Southbury
30: London, Polish Streatham
31: London, Polish West
32: London, Polish Wimbledon
33: Luton, Polish
34: Maltby, Polish
35: Manchester, Polish North
36: Manchester, Polish South
37: Milton Keynes, Polish
38: Morley, Polish
39: Newcastle Upon Tyne, Polish
40: Northampton, Polish
41: Nottingham, Polish
42: Peterborough, Polish
43: Rugby, Polish
44: Rugby, Polish
45: Slough, Polish
46: Southampton, Polish
47: West Bromwich, Polish
i saw this on reddit:.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/5mlgsm/2017_yearbook_of_jehovahs_witnesses/.
overall the numbers are better than last year (1.8% growth compared to 1.5% last year -- as i predicted ;-) ) with an increase in all major figures including 1300 more congregations (i assume this is not physical kingdom halls?).
From the 2015 to 2016 Service Years there was an increase of average publishers reporting of 145,079.
Which countries had the highest increase (and decrease) in the average number of publishers reporting between 2015 and 2016?....
The Top 10 Gainers were: Congo DR; Brazil; Mexico; Zambia; Angola; Malawi; Venezuela; Ghana; Ecuador; and Nigeria.
And just missing out on a Top Ten place was USA which was in 11th place
The Bottom 10 Losers were: Russia; Poland; Ukraine; Japan; Cuba; Hungary; Puerto Rico; Jamaica; Republic of Korea; and Romania.
And just missing out on a Bottom Ten place was Canada which was in 11th place
Here are the charts - link to original full-size
description.
we often come across jehovah's witnesses near station entrances and at our front doors, but we never hear about what happens when they leave.
if you're near london, uk, faith to faithless are doing their first ever event at kings college london, and their first ex jw panel!.
Please post the pictures.
Apparently they hope to video the event - which takes place on Tuesday evening 10 January 2017 at King’s College in London WC2R 2LS - and place it all on youtube:
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/5ii2pq/in_london_faith_to_faithless_our_doing_our_first/
In the meantime, there is this from an earlier Faith to Faithless event:
a known poster on this site (anon) says:.
i have just received a text from an elder i've known for decades in my circuit who has some sympathy for my feelings and who is aware of the arc, the uk charity commission, etc., etc.
here it is verbatim, and my reply.
I do believe that this policy is going to be presented to the UK Charity Commission, to either resolve any concerns that Commission has with their policy or face their continued investigation.
What makes you think it hasn't already?
Regarding dealing with cases of child abuse, the WT has history with the Charity Commission, and the Charity Commission has form with the WT.
It is with great thanks to Barbara Anderson, who has fully researched the matter, that we know the history behind this document:
http://watchtowerdocuments.org/watchtowers-child-safeguarding-policy-great-britain-ireland-uk/
In 2010 the UK Charity Commission required the WATCH TOWER SOCIETY OF BRITAIN to furnish a CHILD SAFEGUARDING POLICY statement... In February 2011 such a document was made available
Again, through Barbara Anderson's valuable research, we now know that, due to one of the cases leading up to the above, the Charity Commission themselves took direct action against specific WT Directors/Trustess:
The result of the scandal and the complaints to the Commission was the removal by the Commission of three prominent directors on the WATCH TOWER’S Board of Trustees, who lived and worked at headquarters.
I would think that the actual removal of Trustees by the Charity Commission would be a 'last resort' option? and not something they would do quickly, or without enough evidence.
Therefore I would expect that the Charity Commission, in it's official regulatory role would 'keep-an-eye' on the WT, and, even if they're not exactly happy with, then they'd at least be somewhat 'satisfied' with the WT's Child Safeguarding Policy document as currently presented, or they would get them to change - it's been nearly six years since it was first published, how long does the Charity Commission need to rise any concerns with it?
a known poster on this site (anon) says:.
i have just received a text from an elder i've known for decades in my circuit who has some sympathy for my feelings and who is aware of the arc, the uk charity commission, etc., etc.
here it is verbatim, and my reply.
I have been involved in child welfare through sport for many years. Every adequate Child Welfare policy emphasises one key point...
If you become aware of an allegation of child abuse you WILL contact the police or social services. If a child doesn't want you to contact the police you will still contact the police. You should also inform the child welfare officer of your local club or national sport governing body. However this is secondary to your requirement to inform the police or social services.
The Child Protection in Sport Unit has the (financial) support of Sport England
https://www.sportengland.org/our-work/national-partners/child-protection-in-sport-unit/
The CPSU has procedure flowcharts outlining the safeguarding reporting procedures for
1. About the behaviour of the organisation’s staff member or volunteer
2. About the behaviour of another organisation’s staff member or volunteer
3. About children and young people arising out of sport (e.g. within the family at home, at school or in the community)
Looking at the WT's 2012 Policy (Section 8) - it would seem that WT is effectively calling the Elders in the individual congregations 'members of staff', and the trained 'Safeguarding Elders' at the Branch Office, the 'Safeguarding Lead Officer/s'.
https://thecpsu.org.uk/resource-library/2014/outline-safeguarding-reporting-procedure-concerns/
https://thecpsu.org.uk/download/media/2473/outline-case-managament-flowcharts-final-oct14.pdf
a known poster on this site (anon) says:.
i have just received a text from an elder i've known for decades in my circuit who has some sympathy for my feelings and who is aware of the arc, the uk charity commission, etc., etc.
here it is verbatim, and my reply.
I have just received a text from an elder I've known for decades in my circuit who has some sympathy for my feelings and who is aware of the ARC, the UK charity commission, etc., etc. Here it is verbatim, and my reply.
"New document about CAbuse. Any member of Cong can ask to see it. Says elders to tell police. Much more in line with real world."
My reply: "Glad to see Satan's wicked legal system forcing change. Shame we can't do it without outside pressure."
Having compared the 2012 and the latest 2017 versions, there appears to be no change regarding reporting to the police? Am I missing something?
2012: [14] A report to the police or other appropriate authorities will be made immediately by the congregation elders if it is determined that a child is still at risk. vi
I've done a side-by-side comparision of the 2012 and the 2017 versions - if anyone is interested you can view it here
First page sample below:
Side-by-side comparision - all six pages
2012 Version: http://www.silentlambs.org/documents/slukChild_Safeguarding_PolicyJan12.pdf
2017 Version: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4oXVPm4nrmfQ2twLUI2T0toekE/view
http://www.savills.com.hk/_news/article/574/141879-0/12/2015/savills-appointed-sole-agent-for-the-tender-sale-of-12-and-14-kent-road--kowloon-tong.
savills appointed sole agent for the tender sale of 12 & 14 kent road, kowloon tong.
the two-storey property at 14 kent road has a site area and saleable area of 10,771 sq ft and 4,303 sq ft respectively.
How many carts has Anon seen? One, at lunchtime; and it was there for less than 2 hours.
Interesting, is this a change? a directive they've had? - this is from a post three month ago......
scratchme1010
In Hong Kong, however, I noticed that they were a lot more and in a lot more places where I wouldn't think I would see JWs with their carts.
......
Also, there were some people from some kind of Christian denomination singing with guitars and other instruments, and the JW cart was right next to them. They looked as if they were part of the other group.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5636342727835648/cart-witnessing-hong-kong
