darkspilver
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watchtower Library 2016
by maestro778 inhello everyone!!!.
someone will have some information about the wtl 2016.
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Now I'm Convinced There Probably Is No God
by pale.emperor inyesterday i made a visit to the museum in my city.
the top floor is the planetarium, which has a connecting room with a huge dome ceiling where they project lessons and lectures and you have a 360 view of the night sky etc.. this particular lecture explained about our galaxy, and how it's only one of billions in the universe.
and then we learned about each planet, some of their moons and the sun.
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darkspilver
Sounds like the World Museum?
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Update to UK “Child Safeguarding Policy”
by wifibandit ina known poster on this site (anon) says:.
i have just received a text from an elder i've known for decades in my circuit who has some sympathy for my feelings and who is aware of the arc, the uk charity commission, etc., etc.
here it is verbatim, and my reply.
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darkspilver
Hey Vidiot
Have you read any UK Child Safeguarding Policy documents, apart from the WTs? It would be interesting to know which ones, if you can please?
Take a look at my earlier post here: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5153307829993472/_post/5742087918059520
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Britain in the doldrums!
by Nicholaus Kopernicus inthe 2014 - 2015 jw statistics showed a peak publisher decline of 884 with the average publisher tally showing a gain of 183. .
the 2017 yearbook is now available via jw.org and the statistics for britain show a 2016 peak publisher increase of 630 and an average publisher increase of a paltry 26!.
nothing to shout about on the part of the followers of caiaphas in the britain branch.
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darkspilver
If they were tracking population increase they should have added at least 17 thousand.
How are you doing the calculation?
Population increased 14% over 20 years
Equivalent JW increase at 14%, to keep track, would mean 142,070That's just another way of doing my original calculation which used the ratio and got 141,929 (small difference due to calculation rounding?) ?
How do you get 17,000? Do you mean if they where increasing PLUS keeping up / tracking the population?
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Britain in the doldrums!
by Nicholaus Kopernicus inthe 2014 - 2015 jw statistics showed a peak publisher decline of 884 with the average publisher tally showing a gain of 183. .
the 2017 yearbook is now available via jw.org and the statistics for britain show a 2016 peak publisher increase of 630 and an average publisher increase of a paltry 26!.
nothing to shout about on the part of the followers of caiaphas in the britain branch.
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darkspilver
In real terms, over the last twenty years in Britain, there has been a 5.5% decrease in publisher numbers.
The JWs in Britain would need to have a monthly average of 141,929 publishers reporting to be the same (ie no increase/decrease) publisher-to-population ratio as they where during the 1996 Service Year (instead of the current 134,517 average publishers) -
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Britain in the doldrums!
by Nicholaus Kopernicus inthe 2014 - 2015 jw statistics showed a peak publisher decline of 884 with the average publisher tally showing a gain of 183. .
the 2017 yearbook is now available via jw.org and the statistics for britain show a 2016 peak publisher increase of 630 and an average publisher increase of a paltry 26!.
nothing to shout about on the part of the followers of caiaphas in the britain branch.
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darkspilver
darkspilver that looks more comprehensive. How did you get that information?
No secret, just from jw.org.....
The congregation search facility on jw.org appears to have two 'limiters' on the results you get - a maximum number and a maximum distance:
Firstly it limits any search to a maximum of 100 results
Secondly it limits search results to a maximum distance - from a quick check this appears to be 100 miles
This means that Nicholaus Kopernicus' 'problem' wasn't a max number of results, but a max distance issue
Remember that the search facility is really only meant to find a congregation meeting in a particular language close to a particular point to which you can travel to and attend - so the limits actually seem generous - WT wants the search facility to have a quick response time, so they don't want to overload the backend with more calculations etc being done than is needed in a 'real-world' situation.
Which also means I've found three more Polish congregations in Britain:
48: Bristol, Polish
49: Paignton, Polish
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Britain in the doldrums!
by Nicholaus Kopernicus inthe 2014 - 2015 jw statistics showed a peak publisher decline of 884 with the average publisher tally showing a gain of 183. .
the 2017 yearbook is now available via jw.org and the statistics for britain show a 2016 peak publisher increase of 630 and an average publisher increase of a paltry 26!.
nothing to shout about on the part of the followers of caiaphas in the britain branch.
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darkspilver
This high immigration is reflected in the increasing numbers of foreign language groups and congregations in Britain. For example...
Polish - 32
That seems a significant drop post-brexit?
EDIT: I think you've mis-read the jw.org search facility?
This is my list of Polish congregations (excluding groups attached to other congregations)
1: Aberdeen, Polish
2: Bedford, Polish
3: Bicester, Polish
4: Birmingham, Polish
5: Bournemouth, Polish
6: Bracknell, Polish
7: Brighton, Polish
8: Chester, South
9: Corby, Polish Central
10: Coventry, Polish
11: Coventry, Polish
12: Crawley, Polish
13: Dartford, Polish
14: Derby, Polish
15: Edinburgh, Polish
16: Glasgow, Polish North
17: Glasgow, Polish South
18: Hull, Polish
19: Inverness, Polish
20: King's Lynn, Polish
21: Leeds, Polish
22: Leicester, Polish
23: Liverpool, Polish
24: London, Polish Central
25: London, Polish Debden
26: London, Polish East
27: London, Polish Hillingdon
28: London, Polish North
29: London, Polish Southbury
30: London, Polish Streatham
31: London, Polish West
32: London, Polish Wimbledon
33: Luton, Polish
34: Maltby, Polish
35: Manchester, Polish North
36: Manchester, Polish South
37: Milton Keynes, Polish
38: Morley, Polish
39: Newcastle Upon Tyne, Polish
40: Northampton, Polish
41: Nottingham, Polish
42: Peterborough, Polish
43: Rugby, Polish
44: Rugby, Polish
45: Slough, Polish
46: Southampton, Polish
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2017 Yearbook released
by bohm ini saw this on reddit:.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/5mlgsm/2017_yearbook_of_jehovahs_witnesses/.
overall the numbers are better than last year (1.8% growth compared to 1.5% last year -- as i predicted ;-) ) with an increase in all major figures including 1300 more congregations (i assume this is not physical kingdom halls?).
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darkspilver
From the 2015 to 2016 Service Years there was an increase of average publishers reporting of 145,079.
Which countries had the highest increase (and decrease) in the average number of publishers reporting between 2015 and 2016?....The Top 10 Gainers were: Congo DR; Brazil; Mexico; Zambia; Angola; Malawi; Venezuela; Ghana; Ecuador; and Nigeria.
And just missing out on a Top Ten place was USA which was in 11th place
The Bottom 10 Losers were: Russia; Poland; Ukraine; Japan; Cuba; Hungary; Puerto Rico; Jamaica; Republic of Korea; and Romania.
And just missing out on a Bottom Ten place was Canada which was in 11th place
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Faith to Faithless XJW event London, UK
by Fe2O3Girl indescription.
we often come across jehovah's witnesses near station entrances and at our front doors, but we never hear about what happens when they leave.
if you're near london, uk, faith to faithless are doing their first ever event at kings college london, and their first ex jw panel!.
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darkspilver
Please post the pictures.
Apparently they hope to video the event - which takes place on Tuesday evening 10 January 2017 at King’s College in London WC2R 2LS - and place it all on youtube:
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/5ii2pq/in_london_faith_to_faithless_our_doing_our_first/
In the meantime, there is this from an earlier Faith to Faithless event:
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Update to UK “Child Safeguarding Policy”
by wifibandit ina known poster on this site (anon) says:.
i have just received a text from an elder i've known for decades in my circuit who has some sympathy for my feelings and who is aware of the arc, the uk charity commission, etc., etc.
here it is verbatim, and my reply.
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darkspilver
I do believe that this policy is going to be presented to the UK Charity Commission, to either resolve any concerns that Commission has with their policy or face their continued investigation.
What makes you think it hasn't already?
Regarding dealing with cases of child abuse, the WT has history with the Charity Commission, and the Charity Commission has form with the WT.
It is with great thanks to Barbara Anderson, who has fully researched the matter, that we know the history behind this document:
http://watchtowerdocuments.org/watchtowers-child-safeguarding-policy-great-britain-ireland-uk/
In 2010 the UK Charity Commission required the WATCH TOWER SOCIETY OF BRITAIN to furnish a CHILD SAFEGUARDING POLICY statement... In February 2011 such a document was made available
Again, through Barbara Anderson's valuable research, we now know that, due to one of the cases leading up to the above, the Charity Commission themselves took direct action against specific WT Directors/Trustess:
The result of the scandal and the complaints to the Commission was the removal by the Commission of three prominent directors on the WATCH TOWER’S Board of Trustees, who lived and worked at headquarters.
I would think that the actual removal of Trustees by the Charity Commission would be a 'last resort' option? and not something they would do quickly, or without enough evidence.
Therefore I would expect that the Charity Commission, in it's official regulatory role would 'keep-an-eye' on the WT, and, even if they're not exactly happy with, then they'd at least be somewhat 'satisfied' with the WT's Child Safeguarding Policy document as currently presented, or they would get them to change - it's been nearly six years since it was first published, how long does the Charity Commission need to rise any concerns with it?
