Cool - thanks for cross-posting from the mega thread
darkspilver
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School bus driver accused of telling boy he would go to hell because of moms.
by ToesUp inschool-bus-driver-accused-of-telling-boy-hed-go-to-hell-because-of-his-mom/.
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AUSTRALIA - Petition to Cancel the Charity Status of Watchtower and Jehovah's Witnesses
by jwleaks ina petition has been launched in australia to coincide with the child abuse royal commission's adverse findings against watchtower and jehovah's witnesses.
the petition is to the australian charities and not-for-profit commission to cancel their charity status.. https://www.change.org/p/australian-charities-and-not-for-profit-commission-acnc-cancel-the-watchtower-bible-and-tract-society-s-charity-status.
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Watching the World - MEGA THREAD of topics
by darkspilver inan esoteric hotchpotch of topics, from the mildly interesting to the rather boringi'm posting here to avoid the 'new topic' forum limitations, and besides it also helps to avoid clogging up the forum if you think something is of passing interest, and you wish to comment on it, please feel free to re-post as a new topic - thanks!
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AUSTRIA: JWs: "It is hoped that soon the end will come"
Following on from an interview that Sarah and Daniel Schwarz gave to the Austrian weekly magazine "profil" last month - they are inerviewed for a second time by the same outlet
First Interview, profil, Issue 20 February 2017Jehovah's Witnesses: Dropouts are fierce criticism
Ex-members report on human perplexity practices among Jehovah's Witnesses. They want to tilt their state recognition as a religious community.READ MORE: https://www.profil.at/oesterreich/zeugen-jehovas-aussteiger-8004218
Second Interview, profil, 8 March 2017Jehovah's Witnesses: "It is hoped that soon the end will come"
It was not an easy step: Sarah and Daniel Schwarz left the Jehovah's Witnesses in August 2016. In conversation with profile the two drop-outs give an insight into the strict life of the religious community.
READ MORE: https://www.profil.at/oesterreich/zeugen-jehovas-aussteiger-ende-8022014
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Looking forward to going to Memorial this year!
by kpop ini have some tricks to play.
i know it may sound childish but i feel that creating havoc and forcing the memorial to be postponed will be the highlight of the night!
wish me luck!.
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sir82: You are likely to only reinforce their victim / persecution complex.
Watchtower 15 July 2011, page 16, paragraph 6
nuff said
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Press in SPAIN report JW members go to JW headquarters to file a complaint for not receiving documents on cases of abuse they requested
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.lainformacion.com/politica/derechos-humanos/exmiembros-testigos-jehova-denunciaran-entregarles_0_990801892.html.
http://www.telecinco.es/informativos/sociedad/exmiembros-testigos-jehova-denunciaran-entregarles_0_2308950586.html.
https://okdiario.com/sociedad/2017/01/16/ex-miembros-testigos-jehova-acusan-organizacion-ocultar-ley-miles-casos-abusos-sexuales-menores-671613jehovah's witness members will report to the organization for failing to provide them with documents regarding child abuse.
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General Attorney in Spain has been requested by Spanish Ombusman to run an investigation.
Into what? Getting your personal information that the congregation has on you - ie the sealed envelope?
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Have you been featured in a Watchtower publication or on jw.org?
by George One Time inmaybe you were considered a good example or a picture was needed.. can you give some background of the procedure?
how about the vetting?
if you cannot give away your identity, that is fine.
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I suspect it depends on how 'featured' the person is.... but is also why the WT uses a large variety of different people, rather than using the same ones.
I'd presume the basic pool would be bethelites, appointed brothers with wifes & regular pioneers, within congregation meeting catchment area of each bethel/branch office
This would probably give a reasonable number - especially when you consider the number of offices around the world, even if they are reducing now.
I suspect that with the monthly broadcasts, they've needed to broaden out a bit
But as ToesUp says, it would be 'exemplary' publishers - so that's people who would be qualified to auxiliary pioneer/be used on platform at Regional Conventions - though I'd expect it would be more akin to the qualifications for being a Regular Pioneer - ie: not reinstated within the last five years, not reproved by a judicial committee for wrongdoing within the last three years.
For general background or groups of people (ie those making up the congregation in a KH scene,or street scene) they're probably not so strict - say just 'publishers' in good standing.
FWIW Barbara Anderson and her husband have been included on TWO FRONT COVERS -
Awake 8 October 1986
Awake 22 July 1992 (4th from left)
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Spain: Condemned the perpetrators of the pyramid scam 700 Jehovah's Witnesses
by JHK ingoogle translation:.
condemned the perpetrators of the pyramid scam 700 jehovah's witnesses.
barcelona, february 6.
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Cool, thanks for the post from El Pais - I listed the result yesterday in the MEGA THREAD here when the result was first filtering through to the online newspapers.
I did also link to this thread for 'background' though
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AUSTRALIA - Petition to Cancel the Charity Status of Watchtower and Jehovah's Witnesses
by jwleaks ina petition has been launched in australia to coincide with the child abuse royal commission's adverse findings against watchtower and jehovah's witnesses.
the petition is to the australian charities and not-for-profit commission to cancel their charity status.. https://www.change.org/p/australian-charities-and-not-for-profit-commission-acnc-cancel-the-watchtower-bible-and-tract-society-s-charity-status.
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Watching the World - MEGA THREAD of topics
by darkspilver inan esoteric hotchpotch of topics, from the mildly interesting to the rather boringi'm posting here to avoid the 'new topic' forum limitations, and besides it also helps to avoid clogging up the forum if you think something is of passing interest, and you wish to comment on it, please feel free to re-post as a new topic - thanks!
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USA: Polk woman claims school bus driver told 7-year old son he would go to hell for mom's same-sex relationship
WFLA TV - News Channel 8, March 7, 2017
Polk woman claims school bus driver told 7-year old son he would go to hell for mom’s same-sex relationship
Polk County, Florida – A Polk County mother is outraged after she claims a school bus driver used her son to spread hate.
Natalie Encarnacion told News Channel 8 that the bus driver, now identified as Violeta Jacobo, told her seven-year-old son he would go to hell for supporting his mom’s same-sex relationship.
One afternoon, in the beginning of February, her son had missed his bus from Alta Vista Elementary School, so a different bus driver took him home.
“He mentioned [to the bus driver] he was hoping his two mom’s wouldn’t be upset that he was home so late,” Encarnacion said. “She said ‘whoa God doesn’t like that,’ then she went on and on telling him how he wouldn’t make it into heaven and there is a such thing as hell.”
She claims the bus driver even sent him home with a Jehovah’s Witnesses card, and hate in his heart.
“Later that night, he explained why we should not be together anymore,” Encarnacion said. “He is absolutely questioning this now, something we have so smoothly transitioned into and never had any issues with.”https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-H0zM8JYek
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Watching the World - MEGA THREAD of topics
by darkspilver inan esoteric hotchpotch of topics, from the mildly interesting to the rather boringi'm posting here to avoid the 'new topic' forum limitations, and besides it also helps to avoid clogging up the forum if you think something is of passing interest, and you wish to comment on it, please feel free to re-post as a new topic - thanks!
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SPAIN: Tribunal Supremo confirms convictions for swindling 39 million from hundreds of JWs
Seems to be the conclusion of a relatively long-running fraud/court case in Spain - there are numerous news report coming through - below seems a reasonably good overall explanation
Europa Press, Tuesday 7 March 2017 (via Google Translate)Tribunal Supremo confirms convictions for swindling 39 million from hundreds of Jehovah's Witnesses
Three years in prison are imposed on those responsible for Rural New Life S.L. And Mutual Mas Vida
The Criminal Chamber of the Supreme Court (Tribunal Supremo) has confirmed sentences of between 3 years and 3 ½ years in prison for four persons responsible for a pyramid scheme for 39 million euros to more than 1,300 people in Spain, hundreds of them belonging to The Jehovah's Witnesses religious congregation, between 1998 and 2002.
Investors were deceived through Rural New Life, SL, and Mutua Mas Vida, the latter an entity of an apparently caregiving nature committed to ensuring non-invasive healthcare that excluded blood transfusions in surgical interventions , A clinical treatment that bans that religion.
Juan Andrés Torrecillas Martínez, one of the founding partners of Rural New Life and former president of Mutua Mas Vida, and Diego Luna Sánchez, delegate of both entities in the area of Catalonia, who took advantage of his position Of 'elder' - a kind of shepherds - in the Jehovah's Witnesses to personally convince hundreds of parishioners to enter into investment contracts and insurance policies.
María Mercedes and María Nieves Torres Salado, the first legal director of the two entities, and the second foundress and former secretary of the Council of Mutua Mas Vida, were sentenced to 3 years in prison. The two were also designated executors executors of the founder and first president of Rural New Life, already deceased.
The Provincial Court of Barcelona issued on January 29, 2015 a sentence in which it established the convictions of the four men cited for a continued crime of fraud, an aggravated subtype of abuse of trust and with prejudice of a notorious importance, in contest with an offense of punishable insolvency .
THE CRIME IS CHANGED BUT THE PENALTIES ARE KEPT
Although the Supreme Court, partially considering the appeal of the two women, acquits for the crime of punishable insolvency, considering it consumed in the continued crime of fraud, maintains unalterable jail terms (3 years and 6 months for Torrecillas and Luna, and 3 Years for the aforementioned Torres Salado sisters).
According to proven facts of the Audiencia de Barcelona, the purpose of Rural New Life, based in Seville, was to attract private investors through a commercial network distributed throughout Spain, in order to have capital to buy Real estate, acquire stakes in other companies, and invest in stock market.
"However, the aforementioned accused decided - jointly and induced the spirit of unjust enrichment - to offer from 1999 as a decoy to future investors loan agreements (under the name Investment Plan and Plan Ahorro, henceforth PIN And PAN) in which a guaranteed return between 10 and 13 percent was recorded, despite being fully aware that the capital would not be invested in any specific good that would produce such high dividends. "
"Conscious that only with the entrance of new capitals (pyramid) could they face the obligations contracted, they established a network of branches (12 in all Spain)", to which they sent some leaflets of propaganda where those high interests were promised Without any risk of the capital invested, adds the resolution.
At the end of 1998, when many of the investors belonged to the Jehovah's Witnesses religious congregation as a result of the fact that the majority of area delegates were directors of the zone and offered the products PIN and PAN to the parishioners of their community , The first president of Rural Nee Wife (now deceased), another partner who is now in an unknown location, and Torrecillas, decided to expand and complete the fraudulent pyramid structure by founding Mutua MAS VIDA, an entity of an apparently caregiving nature that would serve to That the same investors already captured by Rural New Life SL, decided to acquire also shares as mutualists.
In return they were guaranteed not only non-invasive health care that excluded any possibility of blood transfusions in surgical operations, clinical treatment that bans that religion, but high interests of their economic contributions.
"In this way, thanks to the" blind faith "of the subscribers, the result was the sharing of the same religious ideal based on the immorality of every lie, which at the beginning of 2001 between the two entities already had almost 3,000 participants between investors and insured" , Indicates the sentence.
The Insurance Compensation Consortium reached an agreement with 1,312 insureds of Mutua Mas Vida for acquisition and subrogation for the value of 89.31% of each security or participation, worth 11 million euros.
The Consortium did not assume the credits corresponding to the commercial Rural NEW LIFE SL, since it was a private company for profit, and 27.9 million euros are still pending collection from investors.
The judgment, as civil liability, condemns the four defendants to jointly and severally indemnify the persons affected and the Insurance Compensation Consortium for the amount swindled, declaring itself to be a subsidiary liability - not jointly as the Audiencia de Barcelona had said - the company Rural New Life with respect to its impaired investors.Feel free to repost as a New Topic
