Fisherman: 2336 vs 11,000,000
1,006 vs 67,000
a petition has been launched in australia to coincide with the child abuse royal commission's adverse findings against watchtower and jehovah's witnesses.
the petition is to the australian charities and not-for-profit commission to cancel their charity status.. https://www.change.org/p/australian-charities-and-not-for-profit-commission-acnc-cancel-the-watchtower-bible-and-tract-society-s-charity-status.
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Fisherman: 2336 vs 11,000,000
1,006 vs 67,000
a petition has been launched in australia to coincide with the child abuse royal commission's adverse findings against watchtower and jehovah's witnesses.
the petition is to the australian charities and not-for-profit commission to cancel their charity status.. https://www.change.org/p/australian-charities-and-not-for-profit-commission-acnc-cancel-the-watchtower-bible-and-tract-society-s-charity-status.
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Witness My Fury: We can count you know.
I am sorry you feel like that.
In terms of newsworthiness, and visitors to this forum - both those returning or new visitors coming here due to the news coverage in Australia - this is a critical few days for keeping such a petition as this to the forefront of people's attention so that it can build up a momentum and really take off.
The window of opportunity for doing this is small, and it needs to be seized with both hands at THIS time, if it is to have any opportunity of succedding.
this judge ask the rape victim "why couldn't you just keep your knees together", wth.
he acquitted the man accused in the case after deciding his testimony was more credible.
story "canada judge resigns over "keep your knees together comment" and he later became a jw, he will make a good one.....
While in the UK....
The Times, Saturday 11 March 2017
Judge says drunk women must realise they are rape targets
One of Britain’s most senior female judges has begged all women to protect themselves from predatory men while drunk on nights out, as she jailed a rapist in her final case before retiring.
She delivered her impassioned speech yesterday while jailing Ricardo Rodrigues-Gomes, 19, for six years after he raped an 18-year-old woman in Manchester.
Speaking as she retired from the criminal bench, Judge Lindsey Kushner, QC, who qualified as a barrister in 1974 and was appointed a senior circuit judge in 2002, issued a stark warning:
“There is absolutely no excuse and a woman can do with her body what she wants and a man will have to adjust his behaviour accordingly.
But as a woman judge I think it would be remiss of me if I didn’t mention one or two things.
I don’t think it’s wrong for a judge to beg women to take actions to protect themselves.
That must not put responsibility on them rather than the perpetrator.
How I see it is burglars are out there and nobody says burglars are OK, but we do say, ‘Please don’t leave your back door open at night, take steps to protect yourselves.
Girls are perfectly entitled to drink themselves into the ground but should be aware that people who are potential defendants to rape gravitate towards girls who have been drinking.
It should not be like that but it does happen and we see it time and time again.
They do it because first, a girl who is drunk is more likely to agree as they are more disinhibited — even if they don’t agree they are less likely to fight off a man with evil intentions.
Even if they manage to have their way with a girl or woman without her consent the likelihood is she will be less likely to report it because she was drunk or cannot remember what happened or feels ashamed to deal with it, or — if push comes to shove — a girl who has been drunk is less likely to be believed than one who is sober at the time.
I beg girls and women to have this in mind.
They are entitled to do what they like but please be aware there are men out there who gravitate towards a woman who might be more vulnerable than others.
That’s my final line, in my final criminal trial, and my final sentence.”
READ MORE: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/10/women-get-drunk-must-protect-against-rapists-judge-says/
a petition has been launched in australia to coincide with the child abuse royal commission's adverse findings against watchtower and jehovah's witnesses.
the petition is to the australian charities and not-for-profit commission to cancel their charity status.. https://www.change.org/p/australian-charities-and-not-for-profit-commission-acnc-cancel-the-watchtower-bible-and-tract-society-s-charity-status.
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ive lived here 7 months now--and today was the 4th time some dubs have called--while i was at home.. they were probably about 60-70.. after i let one do her simple leaflet presentation--i told them i used to be a jw--but left over 40 years ago.
and that i held the watchtower responsible for the break up of my family: and discussed shunning.. but the main thing i wanted to discuss--was the sale of their kingdom hall.
they confirmed a sale was going through.
Vidiot: For some reason, I can't get the phrase "gentleman caller" out of my head...
how's your glass menagerie?
"She lives in a world of her own – a world of – little glass ornaments..."
when i was in , i went on many vacations, ate out at restaurants a lot and drank alcohol.
loved music and dancing too.... do jws do anything but watch watchtower videos now?
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haha
The Times-Picayune on 6 March 2016 asked clothes designer Tabitha Bethune that question..
What do you do for fun when you’re not working?
My husband and I are Jehovah’s Witness, and we.......
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5714189639221248/_post/5768965101977600
please sign petition to have disneyland stop jw's preaching outside gate.
click here to sign petition (not spam, real link).
jehovah's witnesses have been involved in vast amount of pedophilia cases.
Roberto Carlos: Stop Jehovah's Witnesses from posting outside of Disneyland
You may wish to read the following thread from just two months ago....
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4743609289015296/fwd-lets-get-jws-propaganda-out-disneyland
http://www.smh.com.au/national/inside-the-jehovahs-witnesses-a-perfect-storm-for-abuse-20170309-guukur.html .
http://www.skynews.com.au/news/national/2017/03/10/jehovah-s-witnesses-to-face-abuse-inquiry.html .
http://www.9news.com.au/national/2017/03/10/03/31/uniting-church-witnesses-focus-of-inquiry .
Interesting comment at the end: The commission heard the Jehovah’s Witnesses had referred 15 of 17 child abuse allegations to police that had arisen since the commission hearings, noting that in two cases the adult survivors did not want it reported.
The Guardian, Friday 10 March 2017
Uniting church has faced 2,500 reports of child sexual abuse, royal commission hears
Uniting church says it now has new policies, but Jehovah’s Witnesses fail to change two-witness rule or shunning in response to 1,008 allegations of abuse
The Uniting church has been subject to about 2,500 allegations of child sexual abuse in its 40-year history, the royal commission has heard.
The child abuse royal commission also heard that there were 1,006 alleged perpetrators of abuse within the Jehovah’s Witnesses, but the congregation did not report a single one to police.
The Jehovah’s Witnesses, the inquiry heard, were still refusing to change a second century biblical rule requiring two witnesses to prove wrongdoing.
The royal commission returned to its examination of the Uniting church and the Jehovah’s Witnesses on Friday, seeking to understand how each had reformed its handling of child protection and abuse complaints.
Counsel assisting, Angus Stewart, SC, said the royal commission had analysed data provided by the Uniting church on 2,504 child abuse complaints since 1977.
Of those allegations, 133 related to abuse that occurred in places of worship.
The church had paid out about $17.5m to survivors, and had been the subject of 255 civil claims, Stewart said.
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Earlier, the royal commission heard evidence about the extent of abuse within the Jehovah’s Witnesses.
It heard there were at least 1,008 survivors of alleged abuse, and 579 Jehovah’s Witnesses members confessed.
About 400 alleged perpetrators were expelled from the congregation, and 230 later reinstated. The royal commission reported 514 perpetrators to police.
It also heard victims were still shunned if they left the organisation.
The Jehovah’s Witnesses in Australia consider that they are prohibited by scripture from altering the application of a two-witness rule that applies in all cases of complaints of wrongdoing, the royal commission heard.
The commission found the organisation wrongly relied on that rule in the context of child sexual abuse, saying complainants were subject to ongoing traumatisation if their allegation wasn’t corroborated by a confession by their abuser or a second “credible” eyewitness.
Stewart said the Jehovah’s Witnesses had failed to address many of the inquiry’s recommendations, including that they revise or modify the application of that rule.
He said the organisation had also failed to address the particularly devastating practice of shunning victims who disassociated from the Jehovah’s Witnesses because their abuser remained in the congregation, while maintaining it was not a policy.
The commission found the Jehovah’s Witnesses did not respond adequately to child sexual abuse complaints and did not adequately protect children from the risk of being abused.
But senior members of the Australian church dispute the commission’s finding that the organisation has a general practice of not reporting child sexual abuse allegations to police or authorities unless required to do so by law.
“We have never had a practice of not reporting,” Jehovah’s Witness Australian branch committee member Terrence O’Brien told the commission on Friday.
O’Brien said hundreds were reported, although not by the organisation because it was left to the elders handling the case or the parents.
The commission heard the Jehovah’s Witnesses had referred 15 of 17 child abuse allegations to police that had arisen since the commission hearings, noting that in two cases the adult survivors did not want it reported.
Rodney Spinks, who advises church elders on how to handle child sexual abuse cases, said victims or their parents were told they had the absolute right to report abuse to authorities and that the elders would fully support them.
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Cool - thanks for cross-posting from the mega thread
a petition has been launched in australia to coincide with the child abuse royal commission's adverse findings against watchtower and jehovah's witnesses.
the petition is to the australian charities and not-for-profit commission to cancel their charity status.. https://www.change.org/p/australian-charities-and-not-for-profit-commission-acnc-cancel-the-watchtower-bible-and-tract-society-s-charity-status.
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