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  Leaked - Video tape inside Watchtower HQ of protest Nov 5, 2017

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i saw this on jw reddit and thought, okay that will just be one of the protesters videotaping near their security entrance but it's really from inside the hq's.

  i doubt the org.

  will be happy that this was taped and leaked.https://rutube.ru/video/2dbc8185062524a41ed8c9e2117ca39d/.

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  darkspilver

  Yeah, from inside, looking out

  Video of the WT Warwick HQ November 5, 2017 protest - taken from INSIDE HQ
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  Louise Palmer: British Parliament to bring up the two witness rule

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  fantastic news!

  louise palmer, the lass recently interviewed by a major british newspaper and a csa survivor, has tweeted the following:.

  what a busy couple of days!

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  FYI - Interviews with Louise Palmer about her brother Richard Davenport are at the bottom of the OP here -
  

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5350034331664384/uk-jehovahs-witness-child-abuse-news-all-links-from-november-20-21-2017
  
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  Anybody know about this one?

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a new book has just been published called the oxford handbook of the bible in america.

  in it is an article by michael gilmour, professor of new testament at (the evangelical) providence university college in manitoba, canada, on jws and the nwt.

  that's chapter 41. but that is not the only time jws are brought up.

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  darkspilver

  That's interesting.

  Someone highlighted this book here last week:

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/7dk1ul/new_researchreport_on_oxford_handbooks_online_for/

  Apparently Michael J. Gilmour has written "An Outsider’s Notes on the Jehovah’s Witnesses’ Revelation: Its Grand Climax at Hand!"
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  Watchtowers intransigence on the 2 witness rule picked up by the BBC

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://youtu.be/pmhxiqdolae.

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  darkspilver

  Thanks.
  

  See also

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5350034331664384/uk-jehovahs-witness-child-abuse-news-all-links-from-november-20-21-2017
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  Baby parts story from 1989 Awake magazine

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  *this post was prompted by a reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/7eqno4/jehovahs_witnesses_promote_truth_by_verifying/.

  so.. the org makes the claim that.

  "anyone who reads our publications or views our videos can be confident that the facts were thoroughly researched and are accurate.".

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  OrphanCrow - I was just 'completing' the story arc.

  I don't need to go back 27 years, interesting though it is, to highlight a lack of accuracy.

  Just this month's (November) JW Monthly Broadcast can be used to do that....

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/7cezit/november_broadcast_and_accuracy_of_research/
  
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  Baby parts story from 1989 Awake magazine

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  *this post was prompted by a reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/7eqno4/jehovahs_witnesses_promote_truth_by_verifying/.

  so.. the org makes the claim that.

  "anyone who reads our publications or views our videos can be confident that the facts were thoroughly researched and are accurate.".

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  steve2: I'd have thought if the consensus is that the story is a fabrication, the Awake editor needed to print a correction, as any reputable news source would need to do.

  Check out what the Awake editor did ....
  
  
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  Baby parts story from 1989 Awake magazine

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  *this post was prompted by a reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/7eqno4/jehovahs_witnesses_promote_truth_by_verifying/.

  so.. the org makes the claim that.

  "anyone who reads our publications or views our videos can be confident that the facts were thoroughly researched and are accurate.".

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  OrphanCrow: This little snippet ran in the March 22nd, 1989 Awake magazine in the section Watching the World:
  

  Interesting, thanks for the find.
  

  But you haven't mention the letter that the US Information Agency wrote to the WT about it??

  The letter was printed in the Awake! magazine... check it out here
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  Anyone know anything about this group?

  by Moster in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just wondering what anyone knows about this group:.

  http://www.kingdomherald.ro/beliefs/.

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  There was a split in Romania that still exisits today.
  

  Some interesting comments here:
  

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/281516/my-three-days-hell-summary-part
  
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  UK Jehovah's Witness Child Abuse News - All The Links from November 20 and 21, 2017

  by darkspilver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  in reverse order.

  tuesday, november 21, 2017. .

  bbc radio hereford and worcester - kathleen hallisey interviewed regarding jehovah's witness abuse cases.

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  annihilator: One question why do we have to go to reddit to get the links?
  

  Good question.

  For starters this forum (which is excellent), and the Reddit EXJW subreddit are two quite completely different style of forums. But IMHO the balance has shifted in even just the last couple of months.
  

  This forum has some great and relatively in depth discussions that span weeks, months, even years. It's also an amazing repository of discussions from over the last 15 years which SImon has thankful kept all online.

  Reddit is much more 'linked' based and has relatively quick-fire discussions that last a day or so.

  But in the end I think it boils down to three reasons - posting limits, engagement and numbers.

  POSTING LIMITS: With the relatively strict posting limits imposed here (I believe I'm on 1 new topic and 10 posts per 24 hour period) for which I understand the reasons for (spam etc etc) But actually this works out to be a disincentive to post, in case you want to post something later, but can't, because you've used up your daily limits, sometimes without realising it (there is no 'counter', there used to be), and the post is queued until some unknown time later - posters here mention how their threads and posts turn up a day or so later.

  ENGAGEMENT: Although you can not really compare the 'like'/'dislike' button here with the Reddit system of using the 'upvote' button... you do compare and there is much more engagement/feedback and posts on the Reddit EXJW subreddit . Of course that's partly due to the numbers.

  NUMBERS: There's more people on the Reddit EXJW subreddit . Even allowing for 'throw-away' usernames. People can read both this forum and the Reddit without 'joining' but... the Reddit EXJW subreddit seems to show around 250-350 people 'online' at any one time.

  When you post a new topic on the Reddit EXJW subreddit, you can see how times the topic has been viewed - generally for me it's around 400 to 900 times - some of the link topics I've started have had 1,600 to 2,600 views. If I'm going to post, more people will benefit if I post on Reddit.

  With the huge child abuse news coverage yesterday, the Reddit EXJW subreddit gained it's second highest number of new subscribers in the last five years - some 340 new subscribers.
  

  How many new members joined here yesterday? Two. And they are both spam bots, posting spam. That's a problem. (not the spam, but the lack of numbers joining).
  

  This forum is always going to have the deeper, longer discussions which is great. Reddit is going to have the quick-fire, fun, get the info, type discussions.
  

  Nowadays, I'm starting to post first on Reddit, and sometimes here, second, cut-and-pasting from my Reddit topics.
  
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  UK Jehovah's Witness Child Abuse News - All The Links from November 20 and 21, 2017

  by darkspilver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  in reverse order.

  tuesday, november 21, 2017. .

  bbc radio hereford and worcester - kathleen hallisey interviewed regarding jehovah's witness abuse cases.

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  darkspilver

  In reverse order
  

  TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 21, 2017
  

  • BBC Radio Hereford and Worcester - Kathleen Hallisey interviewed regarding Jehovah's Witness abuse cases

  • IN PRINT: The Times Newspaper - Jehovah's Witnesses 'hushed up child abuse'

  • IN PRINT: The Daily Mail Newspaper - Victims of Jehovah's Witness abuse 'told not to report it'

  • IN PRINT: The Daily Telegraph Newspaper - Jehovah’s Witnesses accused of covering up child abuse

  • The Daily Mail - Victims of Jehovah's Witness abuse 'told not to report it'

  MONDAY, NOVEMBER 20, 2017
  

  • New York Post (US) - Jehovah’s Witnesses accused of systematically covering up sex crimes

  • The Daily Caller (US) - REPORT: Jehovah’s Witness Members Told Reporting Child Abuse ‘Would Bring Reproach On Jehovah’

  • BBC Radio Scotland - 'Good Morning Scotland': Nick tells his story

  • BBC TV: 'Midlands Today' - JW Abuse - UK BBC TV Video

  • BBC TV: 'Midlands Today' - Jehovah's Witnesses featured re:child abuse

  • The Daily Telegraph - Jehovah's Witnesses claim they were told not to report child sex abuse as organisation is accused of sheltering abusers

  • BBC Radio 4: 'PM' - Jehovah's Witnesses featured re:child abuse

  • The Independent - Jehovah’s Witnesses deny sexual abuse within church was covered up

  • BBC TV: 'News at One' - Jehovah's Witnesses featured re:child abuse

  • The Times - Jehovah’s Witness child abuse victims told ‘not to go to police’

  • The Sun - VICTIMS HUSHED: Children who were raped by Jehovah’s Witnesses ‘told NOT to report abuse because it would shame the church’

  • NewsOK (US) - Jehovah's Witnesses 'covered up' abuse

  • International Business Times - Raped at the age of four, Jehovah's Witness told 'not to report' child abuse

  • Birmingham Mail - Jehovah's Witnesses deny telling abuse victims not to call the police

  • BBC News Online - Victims 'told not to report' Jehovah's Witness child abuse

  BACKGROUND - (Richard Davenport)
  

  • Mum-of-two raped by her brother when they were children slams appeal court for cutting his sentence, Daily Mirror, May 26, 2016

  • Jail term cut for Richard Davenport who raped his sister Louise Palmer, Halesowen News, June 1, 2016

  • Abused by my brother, then shunned by my Jehovah's Witnesses family after I went to police, Birmingham Mail, Oct 11, 2015

  • My parents chose my brother, my abuser, over me. I can never forgive them for betrayal, Sunday People (Mirror), Oct 11, 2015

  • Richard Davenport jailed for historic rapes, Halesowen News, Sept 22, 2015