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  the watchtower in the uk

  by pepperheart in

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  the watchtower in the uk are expecting volunters in the uk to travel many 100s of miles for a days work either skilled or unskilled in the new bethel at chelmsford;from edinborough in scotland its almost a 800 mile roundtrip.

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  pepperheart: slidin fast they have tried with just a general invite and that cant have worked so now they are trying to put some pressure on people

  It's not to do with the 'work' - having different people coming in each day for just one day, will mean that the actual useful work that these ones will be able to do will be effectively very limited - and actually they'll possibly be a hinderance as they'll need people to organise them, tell what to do etc etc
  

  No, the real reason is that WT simply want to get as many people as possible, from all over the country, on to the site for a limited time (so they don't get in the way!) - this way those people will feel like they've had a hand in the construction - and importantly it is hoped to build enthusiasm for the new Britain Bethel.

  The local Jdubs in Britain now know that the Britain Bethel will not be printing - so people are asking questions... if they're not printing, what are they actually gonna do at this big new development??... why didn't WT just downsize Britain Bethel, sell the off-site properties, and just use the main original Mill Hill property..
  
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  UK: Significant donations to World Wide Work 2015-2017

  by truthseeker in

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  i'm analyzing the 221 congregations in the uk that had additional account info.. correct me if i'm wrong, but was it 2015 when the letter was read out instructing congregations to donate excess funds to the world wide work?.

  the amounts donated to the world wide work are significant.

  i still have much work to do.. truthseeker.

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  truthseeker: it says transfer deleted, can you repost?

  • December 19, 2017: Day Volunteer Programme for Branch Relocation Project

  • 2018/2019: Day Volunteer Congregation Assignments
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  2017 Service Year Report Worldwide - INDIVIDUALLY LISTED LANDS and COUNTRIES

  by darkspilver in

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  2017 service year report worldwide: table with individually listed lands and countries.

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  breakfast of champions: I'm most shocked that:....
  

  Oh, they're not. I am.
  

  I number crunched the data and devised the table myself, including the column headings etc.
  

  I decided to go with 10ths of a percent to help give a general idea of either up-lift or down-lift.

  Likewise I used both the + and the - in front to hopefully make it clearer.
  
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  2017 Service Year Report Worldwide - INDIVIDUALLY LISTED LANDS and COUNTRIES

  by darkspilver in

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  2017 service year report worldwide: table with individually listed lands and countries.

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  St George of England

  thanks - yeah, seems that the 2017 Yearbook with the 2016 Service Year was the odd-one out!

  I thought the WT checked this stuff 70 times or something before printing it!!!

  The actual Jdub numbers and figure appear robust (ie they match up similiar year-to-year) - the only problem is the population which effects the ratio and rel-terms increase <sigh>
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  2017 Service Year Report Worldwide - INDIVIDUALLY LISTED LANDS and COUNTRIES

  by darkspilver in

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  Phizzy: I find the figures for Ireland hard to follow, an increase in Peak Pubs, but a big increase in the ratio of general population to Pubs, which translates to a huge minus % in the last column. Would this not mean that Ireland has had a huge population increase in just one year ???

  haha! thanks! they ARE hard to follow....
  
  It appears that WT has made another typo/mistake (see notes at bottom of table regarding population of Guinea-Bissau)

  WT appears to have added the population of Ireland (4.75 million) with Northern Ireland (1.85 million) to make 6.6 million
  
  

  WT Ireland 2016

  • Population: 4,713,993
  • Peak Publisher: 6,585
  • Congregations: 119

  WT Ireland 2017

  • Population: 6,632,107
  • Peak Publisher: 6,747
  • Congregations: 120

  
  The figures for Britain appear to be unaffected with the above mistake.
  
  Until the WT updates their own figures - I'll use 4,773,095 from The World Bank
  https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.POP.TOTL?locations=IE
  
  This therefore gives:

  Ireland 2017 CORRECTED

  • Population: 4,773,095
  • Peak 2016: 6,585
  • Peak 2017: 6,747
  • Increase: +2.5%
  • 2016 Ratio: 716
  • 2017 Ratio: 707
  • Real Terms Increase: +1.2%

  In the Grand Totals, this slightly decreases the Population, I also appear to have a mistake/typo regarding the Grand Total Ratios (excl 'Other Lands') - the 2016 ratio is 649.6 (rounded to 650) and the 2017 ratio is 648.3 (rounded to 648) - the percentage increase in real terms appears to be uneffected at +0.2%
  

  I will be looking at editing and re-posting an updated table - I want to see first if WT are going to edit their own data with regard to Russia, Guinea-Bissau and Ireland befor I rush out another version......
  
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  2017 Service Year Report Worldwide - INDIVIDUALLY LISTED LANDS and COUNTRIES

  by darkspilver in

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  slimboyfat
  

  For clarification, I thought 1.4% increase was the summarised worldwide growth in average publishers. Is that wrong? Or is it a coincidence that the increase in average publishers matches the increase in peak publishers for this year?

  Year-on-year growth for Average Publishers was 1.43407% - which rounds down to 1.4%
  
  Year-on-year growth for Peak Publishers was 1.39386% - which rounds up to 1.4%
  
  Using Peak Publishers is not great - but the table compares like-with-like, Peak 2016-with-Peak 2017
  
  See also my comments here

  Regarding Russia see my comments here

  The congregation numbers are really interesting.
  

  I don't think you can look purely at number of congregations, you need to look as how many publishers are in each one - in the US they average 91 publishers-per-congregation.

  Colombia lost 213 congregations, while growing 1.6%
  

  In practical terms it means that the 173,802 publishers in Coloumbia have gone from an average of 67 publishers-per-congregation to 74 publishers-per-congregation.

  In comparision, their 'next-door' neighbour, Venezuela, with 149,355 publishers has an average of 79 publishers-per-congregation.

  The decline in Germany is quite amazing. They have lost 41 congregations in a single year, despite massive immigration to Germany over the last few years.
  

  They still have an average of just 78 publishers-per-congregation.

  South Africa lost 58 congregations. That's pretty huge.
  

  I don't really think so - I believe South Africa was the country that was featured in the July 2017 Broadcast regarding KH seat utilization!!

  See: WT VIDEOS: Merging Congregations and Seat Utilization (from Nov 2016 and July 2017)
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  2017 Service Year Report Worldwide - INDIVIDUALLY LISTED LANDS and COUNTRIES

  by darkspilver in

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  dropoffyourkeylee: What is meant by %Real Terms? Eighth column from left
  

  See the notes at the bottom of the table.
  
  Increase (or decrease) of Jdubs compared to population increase (or decrease) from 2016 to 2017.
  
  
  
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  2017 Service Year Report Worldwide - INDIVIDUALLY LISTED LANDS and COUNTRIES

  by darkspilver in

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  New round of elders and MS schools going on, anyone have a inside scoop on any of the info being shared there?

  by optimisticskeptic in

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  confidential items are of most interest of course, just curious what they're talking about there in general and what are the newest things everyone is being warned about, etc.

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  I believe you're refering to the KMS (Kingdom Ministry School) - the one-day school for Elders (on Saturdays) and Ministerial Servants (on Sundays).
  

  The full outlines, with videos - all in English are here:
  

  Leak: officially videos and talks to Kingdom Ministry School 2018
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  Inactive/Inactive Publishers ... Are they all counted?

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  forgive me if this specific question has been asked and answered.. the jw worldwide report includes their number of publishers, but it doesn't make a distinction between inactive, irregular, or active.

  do they include everyone?

  in other words, the "faders" that don't dissociate ... are they forever counted in their yearly publisher report because they are technically just an "inactive publisher"?.

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  WIld_Thing: Is there a Watchtower document you can point to that says that?

  Yes. The following explains some background:

  https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/how-many-jw-members/

  BUT also see the following, which explains it a bit more 'honestly' using a Watchtower article from 2011:
  

  Watchtower's Peak Publishers are Fake Publishers