Update on Detroit-Area Murder Suicide - Front Page Article

by lepermessiah in

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https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/02/19/keego-harbor-jehovahs-witness-mom-triple-murder-suicide/351559002/.

this was on the front page of freep.com this morning - sadly there are some factual errors in this article that people will jump on (not allowed to go to college was in original article for instance - hopefully the reporter will correct it).

interesting reading the comments below the article - all kinds of opinions.

darkspilver

All the links: Stuart family murder-suicide in Keego Harbor, Detoit, Michigan - news links from February 16 to 20, 2018

The tragic story of a murder-suicide involving a husband and wife, and their two adult children, in Keego Harbor - a 3,000 population city some 25 miles to the north of Detroit in Michigan, US - initially broke when police found their bodies at their home on Friday morning, February 16, 2018.

The first, and only, inkling that there may be a 'Jehovah's Witness' connection to the story was later the same day when an article on the website of The Detroit News mentioned that: "Neighbors John and Jackie Tristani... said in one of their first meetings with Lauren Stuart a few years ago she attempted to 'recruit' them into the Jehovah’s Witnesses."

It was then, two days later, on Sunday, February 18, that video emerged on YouTube of a family friend, Joyce Taylor, crashing the start of the Sunday morning meeting at a local Kingdom Hall. This was then picked up over the following days by various news-outlets.

Friday, February 16, 2018

The Detroit News (US): Four dead in family murder-suicide in Keego Harbor

Sunday, February 18, 2018

YouTube Video: Friend crashes Kingdom Hall in memory of the Stuart family

Monday, February 19, 2018

RawStory (US): Jehovah's Witness church accused of driving former member to kill her entire family and herself with false accusations of theft
Fox2 Detroit (US): Friend blames religion for Keego Harbor family's murder-suicide
WXYZ Detroit (US): Did church shun family in Keego Harbor murder-suicide?

Tuesday, February 20, 2018

Detroit Free Press (US): IN PRINT - FRONT PAGE - Did shunning lead her to kill?
USA Today (US): Did Jehovah's Witness shunning drive mom to kill her family, self?
Inquisitr (US): Woman Murders Husband, Two Children, And Family Dog After Being Shunned By Jehovah’s Witnesses
Christian Post (US): Woman Who Killed Self, Entire Family Was Shunned by Jehovah's Witnesses for Sending Kids to College
Daily Mail (UK): Michigan model mother, 45, 'killed her husband, two adult children and the family dog before committing suicide after being shunned by the Jehovah's Witnesses
Heavy . com (US): Lauren Stuart: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
TEGNA (multiple-outlets) (US): Friends: Jehovah's Witnesses shunning drove Detroit-area mom to murder-suicide
Friendly Atheist (Patheos): Ex-Jehovah’s Witness Kills Family, Then Herself, Possibly Due to Church Shunning
People (US): Mich. Model Shoots Her Husband and Adult Children Before Turning the Gun on Herself
Rare (US): A woman blames Jehovah’s Witnesses after her friend took her family’s lives in a murder-suicide

All the links: Stuart family murder-suicide in Keego Harbor, Detoit, Michigan - news links from February 16 to 20, 2018

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Update on Detroit-Area Murder Suicide - Front Page Article

by lepermessiah in

jw
friends

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/02/19/keego-harbor-jehovahs-witness-mom-triple-murder-suicide/351559002/.

this was on the front page of freep.com this morning - sadly there are some factual errors in this article that people will jump on (not allowed to go to college was in original article for instance - hopefully the reporter will correct it).

interesting reading the comments below the article - all kinds of opinions.

darkspilver

steve2: For the loud and clear record, the urge to kill other people is an identifiable criterion of NO recognized mental health disorder.

how does that relate to Primarily Obsessional OCD, or Pure O?

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When did Cook, the new GB member, start claiming to be anointed, and what are the implications?

by jwfacts in

kenneth cook was a "helper" in the writing department, which is apparently a role for those of the great crowd.

watchtower 15/10/15 p.3 states that helpers are of the great crowd.

"since 1992, the governing body has appointed experienced, mature christian elders to help its committees carry out their work.

darkspilver

FWIW

jwfacts: Watchtower 15/10/15 p.3 states that helpers are of the Great Crowd. "Since 1992, the Governing Body has appointed experienced, mature Christian elders to help its committees carry out their work.* These helpers, from among the "other sheep," provide valuable support to the Governing Body."

That WT above, does NOT list Cook as a helper.

I don't believe that it is rigid that the GB helpers are specifically 'other sheep' and NOT 'annointed' - I suspect that the 2015 article was written the way it was because, at that time, all the helpers where, coincidently, 'other sheep'.

When the GB helper came in to being, the WT repeatedly highlighted that:

Watchtower April 15, 1992 - Announcement: Assistance for Governing Body Committees
Therefore it has been decided to invite several helpers, mainly from among the great crowd, to share in the meetings of each of the Governing Body Committees, that is, the Personnel, Publishing, Service, Teaching, and Writing Committees. Thus, the number attending the meetings of each of these committees will be increased to seven or eight. Under the direction of the Governing Body committee members, these assistants will take part in discussions and will carry out various assignments given them by the committee. This new arrangement goes into effect May 1, 1992.

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The Joe McHale Show!

by DATA-DOG in

i just watched the first episode of the joe mchale show and our old friend gary made the cut!

he makes his big debut as the last joke of episode one!

“pillow talk” has made its was to netflix!

darkspilver

Here's a link to the video clip:

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/7ygudv/clip_pillowgate_gets_a_comedic_mention_on_the_new/

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Jehovah's Witness Books in Guinness Book of World Records

by TerryWalstrom in

http://ed5015.tripod.com/jwbookscirculation.htm.

new light.

predicting world events--yet--containing not even 1 successfully completed prophecy.how is any of it "food"?

darkspilver

That's a weird list, which appears have been posted by an anti-JW website (if you follow the links on the page)

Wonder why you posted the link here?, which also appears to date from 2001?

I suspect the list has been made up in order to try to get active JWs to visit it.

Anyway, here's the list from Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_books

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Apostasy: The Movie - Directed by Daniel Kokotajlo

by darkspilver in

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daniel kokotajlo's new film apostasy has it's world premiere at the toronto international film festival in september 2017. apostasy.

family and faith come into conflict for two jehovah’s witness sisters in manchester, when one is condemned for fornication and the other pressured to shun her sibling.. this fresh, unadorned first feature from director dan kokotajlo carries an unmistakable note of authenticity from its very first scenes.

set in a jehovah's witness community in england, the film's strength and power lies in its directness.. apostasy depicts the growing rift in a family — a mother and two daughters — who are rigorously devoted to their religion.

darkspilver

Coming to the Belgrade International Film Festival....

Apostasy the Movie: Serbian Premiere - Belgrade International Film Festival - February 27 to March 4, 2018

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3 More BOE's just arrived!

by Atlantis in

3 more boe's arrived.. .

2018 special talk info.

https://we.tl/tyg6jfwrrw.

darkspilver

Are you serious: So am I understanding correctly that the special talk will now be recorded and presented to all congregations who's language is on the list?

Yes, though the OP list is for the Britain Branch.

September 18, 2017 TO ALL CONGREGATIONS Re: 2018 Memorial and Special Talk

also, for reference:

2018 Special Talk Outline: "WHO REALLY IS JESUS CHRIST?"

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Kingdom Support Services Used Equipment - violin for sale

by OrphanCrow in

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found on this site here: http://used-tools-equipment.com/.

for the low price of $3500, you can own this lovely instrument:.

orren v. heath 1937 american violin no.

darkspilver

FWIW it has also been listed on ebay

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ORREN-V-HEATH-1937-AMERICAN-VIOLIN-NO-68-lifton-case-bows-bundle-010-843292/222797368630?hash=item33dfc20d36:g:arEAAOSwwcRaXNEO

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Apostasy: The Movie - Directed by Daniel Kokotajlo

by darkspilver in

jw
friends

daniel kokotajlo's new film apostasy has it's world premiere at the toronto international film festival in september 2017. apostasy.

family and faith come into conflict for two jehovah’s witness sisters in manchester, when one is condemned for fornication and the other pressured to shun her sibling.. this fresh, unadorned first feature from director dan kokotajlo carries an unmistakable note of authenticity from its very first scenes.

set in a jehovah's witness community in england, the film's strength and power lies in its directness.. apostasy depicts the growing rift in a family — a mother and two daughters — who are rigorously devoted to their religion.