who are these people?
Ah, right - good old Daily Mail
and thirty mile zone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl9ZPUqEzRE
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DarK SpilveR
russell had some charisma, as did the alcoholic womanizer, j.f.
rutherford.
n.h. knorr, not so much.
who are these people?
Ah, right - good old Daily Mail
and thirty mile zone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl9ZPUqEzRE
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DarK SpilveR
official information of congregations, languages, publishers, elders, ministerial servants, pioneers, special pioners, and names of circuit overseers, all in english:.
https://hildeydesa.blogspot.cl/2016/07/asambleas-de-circuito-2017-y-sesion-con.html.
bonus track in spanish: all outlines for circuit assemblies 2017, and annual pioneer meeting....
published in language of Shakespeare:
haha, you mean as supposed to Miguel de Cervantes?
Who? Oh, wait, yeah....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntU46kTlfzA
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DarK SpilveR
official information of congregations, languages, publishers, elders, ministerial servants, pioneers, special pioners, and names of circuit overseers, all in english:.
https://hildeydesa.blogspot.cl/2016/07/asambleas-de-circuito-2017-y-sesion-con.html.
bonus track in spanish: all outlines for circuit assemblies 2017, and annual pioneer meeting....
Hey Gayle
This shows "effective Sept 1. July and August are not completed yet. So incomplete?
It's probably data showing set for the new Service Year which starts on 1 September each year
Oh wait, it's not Dominica?
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DarK SpilveR
i would appreciate knowing from someone in the know if the goofy carts and rain covers are given to the congregation by the org.
or if the congregation has to pay the org for them.
i am sure i read that somewhere here in my lurking days, but am not finding it at present.. if the congregation is billed for it i intend to use that as a reason for my continued refusal to donate anything from now on.. thanks in advance..
Of course they will never budge a finger to actually do any real ministry.
Interesting view - most here, and I stand to be corrected, do not believe the trolley work counts as 'real ministry' - just standing their, 10 feet away, not approaching people - but you obviously disagree with that.
Anyway, the two of them ain't being used think how much money your congregation is saving not having to buy all the posters each month!! Maybe you should suggest that your congregation gets another pair and saves more money not buying the posters each month!!!
But poor SO, that's bad, surprised the CO hasn't done anything about it yet?
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DarK SpilveR
i would appreciate knowing from someone in the know if the goofy carts and rain covers are given to the congregation by the org.
or if the congregation has to pay the org for them.
i am sure i read that somewhere here in my lurking days, but am not finding it at present.. if the congregation is billed for it i intend to use that as a reason for my continued refusal to donate anything from now on.. thanks in advance..
Hey neat blue dog
I think it's more along of the lines of when publishers ask how much they are etc
the answer is that the cost is covered by their donations to the worldwide work (rather than a donation to local congregation)
I would have thought even a brief congregation announcement could be in order, if it was felt to be needed.
this would be in contrast to the costs for the printed posters for which publishers may contribute to the local congregation (and not the worldwide work)
And in real life, I think more people ask about who pays for the actual printed posters rather than the cart....
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DarK SpilveR
i would appreciate knowing from someone in the know if the goofy carts and rain covers are given to the congregation by the org.
or if the congregation has to pay the org for them.
i am sure i read that somewhere here in my lurking days, but am not finding it at present.. if the congregation is billed for it i intend to use that as a reason for my continued refusal to donate anything from now on.. thanks in advance..
neat blue dog
Yes there are fixed costs for everything (somebody's gotta pay for it, right?) The Lit-carts ® cost $40 a piece and you are required to buy them in pairs for $80. There is also a catalog of all kinds of accessories, which may include covers, etc. Not sure about pricing.
Except now they're provided at no direct charge (see earlier in this thread for post and link to the BoE Letter)
And, anyway just three months at $15-a-month poster is more than the capital costs, as per my earlier post in this thread.
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DarK SpilveR
i would appreciate knowing from someone in the know if the goofy carts and rain covers are given to the congregation by the org.
or if the congregation has to pay the org for them.
i am sure i read that somewhere here in my lurking days, but am not finding it at present.. if the congregation is billed for it i intend to use that as a reason for my continued refusal to donate anything from now on.. thanks in advance..
How much are the carts, I heard $40,000 which must be wrong.
so clean, so simple, and explodes it with an hyperbole - you can trust blondie
Ah! blondie.... the joys of Hebrew poetry!
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DarK SpilveR
i would appreciate knowing from someone in the know if the goofy carts and rain covers are given to the congregation by the org.
or if the congregation has to pay the org for them.
i am sure i read that somewhere here in my lurking days, but am not finding it at present.. if the congregation is billed for it i intend to use that as a reason for my continued refusal to donate anything from now on.. thanks in advance..
pale.emperor
I think a better reason to not donate is that the GB members fly first class on planes (with their wives) at $4,500 a ticket!!
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5722816267681792/branch-visit-yesterday?page=2
respectful_observer
Take it for what it is (unsubstantiated), but it's my understanding from more than one senior Bethel contact that it's the GB's standard policy to only ever fly Coach/Economy, even to the point of refusing frequent flyer upgrades, lest some lowly J-dub see them comfortably tucked into First as they slog their way back to the cheap seats.
ah so that's what they call 'an inconvenient truth'
Is Paula the new Johnny the Bethelite or the new Andre?
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DarK SpilveR
i would appreciate knowing from someone in the know if the goofy carts and rain covers are given to the congregation by the org.
or if the congregation has to pay the org for them.
i am sure i read that somewhere here in my lurking days, but am not finding it at present.. if the congregation is billed for it i intend to use that as a reason for my continued refusal to donate anything from now on.. thanks in advance..
Found it
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/282651/boe-2014-07-15-witnessing-public-places-revision
BoE Letter July 15, 2014 - Witnessing in public places (note last sentence in para 6)
6. Requesting public witnessing equipment: The Congregation Service Committee will determine the equipment to be requested and where it will be stored. Public witnessing equipment can be requested in the same way publications are requested. We are pleased to provide a document entitled Public Witnessing Supplies (S-80) that contains sample pictures and descriptions of standard carts, stands, tables, and kiosks. The equipment will remain the property of the congregation. Care should be taken to request only equipment that will be put to good use by publishers who have been trained in its use. The congregation may be informed that the cost of these carts will be covered by their contributions to the worldwide work.
So, no direct cost, nor any suggested cost provided
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DarK SpilveR
i would appreciate knowing from someone in the know if the goofy carts and rain covers are given to the congregation by the org.
or if the congregation has to pay the org for them.
i am sure i read that somewhere here in my lurking days, but am not finding it at present.. if the congregation is billed for it i intend to use that as a reason for my continued refusal to donate anything from now on.. thanks in advance..
The carts, and replacement parts/repair kits/rain covers/etc, along with other public witnessing equipment, are provided to congregations at no cost as part of the standard literature order/delivery, at least here in the UK.
I do believe that there was a 'suggested donation', which AFAIK was a relatively reasonable amount, when the Trollies where introduced, but this appears to have been dropped now.
BUT
it's probably a bit like your computer printer... (cost of actual printer compared to ink cartridges)
The CAPITAL cost of the Carts almost pales into insignificance with the Carts RUNNING costs.
Running costs? Yeah! The large scale (often sticky-back) posters that need printing
https://publicwitnessingsigns.com
http://esignbuilder.com/jwimprintsstore/
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DarK SpilveR