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  Apostasy: The Movie - Directed by Daniel Kokotajlo

  by darkspilver in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  daniel kokotajlo's new film apostasy has it's world premiere at the toronto international film festival in september 2017. apostasy.

  family and faith come into conflict for two jehovah’s witness sisters in manchester, when one is condemned for fornication and the other pressured to shun her sibling.. this fresh, unadorned first feature from director dan kokotajlo carries an unmistakable note of authenticity from its very first scenes.

  set in a jehovah's witness community in england, the film's strength and power lies in its directness.. apostasy depicts the growing rift in a family — a mother and two daughters — who are rigorously devoted to their religion.

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  jookbeard: are there any official clips of it?

  I'd presume trailers/clips will be released as part of the marketing campaign once the film goes on 'general release'.

  In the UK's Observer newspaper today (Sunday, October 15, 2017) - Apostasy got a short mention in a full page article that appears on page 29 in the main section of the newspaper - and also an 'end of article' mention that the film will be released in 2018
  

  
  
  Fresh, diverse and earthy: 2017’s great debuts from UK film directors
  

  Observer, Sunday, October 15, 2017, page 29 (full page article in main section of print newspaper)

  The end of the London Film Festival highlights the growing success of a new wave of UK film-makers, including Michael Pearce and Rungano Nyoni

  The London Film Festival, which finishes its 10-day run on Sunday, has provided a focus for this crop of new British directors, three of whom were competing on Sunday night for the festival’s First Feature prize. Michael Pearce’s Beast is a tense Jersey-set thriller about the passionate romance between two outcasts, both damaged in their own way, one of whom may be a serial killer; at times it has the feral texture of a Bruno Dumont drama, at others it is closer to a rural Jagged Edge – Jersey Edge, perhaps. Also in competition was Apostasy, the Mancunian director Daniel Kokotajlo’s coiled study of life in a community of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

  Daphne and God’s Own Country are on release. I Am Not a Witch opens on Friday. Apostasy and Beast will be released next year.

  READ FULL ARTICLE: https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/oct/14/british-film-talent-london-film-festival-michael-pearce-rungano-nyoni

  
  
  
  
  
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  October 1, 2017 TO ALL BOE IN NIGERIA Re: Local Needs For the Week of October 16-22

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  october 1, 2017 to all bodies of elders in nigeria re: local needs for the week of october 16-22.

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  slimboyfat: Darksilver I know it is available at avoidjw

  yes, and wifibandit publicily said he got it from avoidjw - avoidjw appears to be the source of the letter for wifibandit

  slimboyfat: You suggest I should read about Nigerian English. Is that an oblique way of saying you believe the letter is genuine?

  no, just highlighting that what a western native English speaker like myself might consider to be a "linguistic corruption" can be viewed as being acceptable in other countries.

  Compared to other PDFs of letter purporting to come from the Nigerian Bethel, the OP doesn't look right - maybe because it has been very much locally produced.

  A lot has been 'picked-up' by others on this thread - but I don't think the following has?.....
  

  One thing I noted very quickly was the word spacing and lack of word-breaks - the WT style is such that they will often break words over two lines with a hyphen - the OP letter, despite being rather long, and with a number of lines that would benefit from a line-break - has NONE.

  This is in contrast with other letters apparently from Nigeria that DO have word-breaks (September 19, 2017 - six line letter, words broken/hyphened on three lines; July 3, 2016 - long two page letter, words broken/hyphened on 15 lines).

  This indicates to me the use of a non-WT standard word-processer/computer set-up, even when compared to other WT Nigerian letters.
  

  I believe the Nigerian meetings are downloadable from stream.jw.org so it would be relatively easy for someone to view next week's meeting part and see if the principles of the letter are included, or not.
  
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  Barred from entering kh

  by poopie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a friend of mine called last night we will call him tom.

  he is df now for 2 yrs for associating with a a df person non relative.

  anyway he arrived at the meeting this week and was informed by 3 elders that he was no longer welcomed at the hall.apparently he was caught greeting someone in the parking lot after meeting.

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  poopie - different countries have different laws, but as I understand it the underlying principle is:
  

  Although open to the public, a church is private property.

  If a person causes a disturbance then the person's 'implied invitation' to attend the church service can be revoked.
  

  You could also be asked to leave / removed if you simply looked a bit scuffy - even shops have dress-codes, and they will ask you to leave if you do not abide by them.
  

  Additionally as an interesting side issue - in the UK there is currently some debate going on about POPS - that's Privately Owned Public Spaces:

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5696291591946240/_post/4760863821004800
  
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  Australia: JW found guilty of raping and detaining succession of women

  by darkspilver in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this court case has been ongoing for the last couple of months - seems like the first verdicts came out at the end of last week - with more expected shortly.the sydney morning herald, may 12 2017. man found guilty of raping and detaining succession of women .

  a man accused of torturing, raping and detaining women he lived with over more than two decades has been found guilty of a raft of charges.. the 52-year-old's trial heard allegations that he physically and psychologically abused a succession of women he lived with on the nsw central coast between 1988 and 2014.. a jury found the man guilty of 10 rape charges and eight count of detaining for advantage in the nsw district court on friday afternoon.

  but the jury have not yet reached a verdict on three other counts of indecent assault.. the man, who was a member of the jehovah's witness church, was accused of raping women with household objects, forcing them to eat their dinners off the floor, and hog-tying them and placing them face down in a bath filled with water.. read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/man-found-guilty-of-raping-and-detaining-succession-of-women-20170512-gw3jtm.

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  UPDATE

  Central Coast man who used 'gratuitous cruelty' to torture multiple women jailed for 27 years
  

  ABC NEWS, Friday, October 13, 2017

  A Central Coast man who raped and tortured a succession of women over more than two decades has been sentenced to at least 27 years in jail.

  The 53-year-old man, who cannot be named for legal reasons, was found guilty of 55 charges relating to the physical, sexual and psychological abuse of women he lived with between 1988 and 2014.

  The man, who was a member of the Jehovah's Witnesses, was accused of raping the women with household objects and detaining them.

  Justice Huggett said the degree of violence was a relevant consideration in the sentence and that the offender was "frightening, controlling and undermining each victim's sense of security".

  The court heard that while in custody, the man had been verbally aggressive towards visitors and nursing staff.

  READ FULL ARTICLE: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-13/man-who-tortured-women-jailed-27-years/9046326
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  October 1, 2017 TO ALL BOE IN NIGERIA Re: Local Needs For the Week of October 16-22

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  october 1, 2017 to all bodies of elders in nigeria re: local needs for the week of october 16-22.

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  slimboyfat: Again this is nothing to do with wifi's honesty. He may have been handed a fake unawares. He's yet to explain where it came from.

  wifibandit got it from avoidjw

  avoidjw got it from one of their 'team'
  

  wifibandit: Props to avoidjw for the PDF I had not seen and to ApostateMom for the tweet where I first saw this!

  avoidjw: It was sent by another member of the avoidjw team.
  

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/75s80u/october_1_2017_to_all_boe_in_nigeria_re_local/do8ijxf/
  

  Remember, when I posted the Annual Meeting changes letter here earlier this week? it was from a previously 'unknown' source to me - and I was therefore very specific that it was, at the time, 'unverified'.

  I also provided a hat-tip link to the original source, but that is just good netiquette
  

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5134799058501632/_post/6251129845317632

  Also, for some background, you may be interested is looking at (and hearing) the following:
  

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_English

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Pidgin

  Example of Nigerian Pidgin (play video):
  https://www.jw.org/pcm/jehovah-witness-people/different-different-meeting/vidio-kingdom-hall/
  
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  "Hello" from the other side...(of the door). Mormon parody of Adele

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jud2bdmd1wk.

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  cobweb: Yeah its good. But this is the third time you've posted it today.

  But people might have missed it!
  

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6042722462859264/hello-parody-this-could-apply-much-witnesses

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4853486418132992/hello-adele-parody
  

  Besides, do you really want to listen to 3-and-a-half hours of the Annual Meeting??

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0_6GweYEpU
  
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  the watchtower have cut more than just mags and books

  by pepperheart in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you go on to jw.org itself and ltype in the search box for "bethel closures" it will tell you under the headline of"giving priority to the global preaching work".

  that they have kicked out 5,500 people from the bethel family.. also if you search under "2012 bethel".

  on page two it will tell you that they have "consolidated 20 branch offices of jws around the world .

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  If you go on to jehovahs-witness.com itself and type in the search box for "revealed number of bethelites" it will tell you under the headline of "REVEALED: The number of Bethelites over the years."

  A chart showing the huge increase of the number of bethelites over the years compared to actual publishers.

  Also if you search under "truth about branch closures"

  it will tell you that, although 25 branches have closed over the 10 years (a 21% decrease), the number of bethelites has increased by 6,683 over the same time (a massive 35% INCREASE)

  
  
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  Counter-Watchtower / Answers-in-Watchtower First Draft Issue 1

  by Counter-Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  please proof read the draft and comment any edits, corrects or changes of any kind needed.

  also i need help with the cover page, what the title should be and plain text or whatnot, whatever would be more appealing to a jw to get them to open and read.. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0b2s6sigyikwhmglhqk5fcmxwzwc/view?usp=sharing.

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  Counter-Watchtower: (Not sure if JWs capitalize Holy Spirit or not?)
  

  Er, you are using the Watchtower Style Guide aren't you??

  Below is a copy to a 152 page version

  The section on capitalization starts on page 30 of the PDF (and covers about 35 pages) - you need to look at page 55 of the PDF

  https://jw.servehttp.com/handbook.php?is=sm98-E.pdf
  
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  Apostacy - The Movie Review

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  cannot wait to see this.

  is it going to be in regular cinemas?

  i love the fact that the guardian newspaper, the same paper that exposed their un involvement, are the ones reviewing this.. p.s.

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  Check out the thread below

  cobweb posted The Guardian's review yesterday
  

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6224640852623360/apostasy-movie-directed-daniel-kokotajlo

  pale.emperor: Is it going to be in regular cinemas?

  It has been picked up for cinema distribution in the UK by Curzon Artificial Eye

  See above thread, UK distribution was announced a week ago, here is the direct link:

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6224640852623360/_post/5884152337399808
  

  pale.emperor: P.S. There's no way they used real KH to film this.
  

  Why?

  I understand the external shots are a real KH, as the Guardian reviews says - they location scouted a KH that had recently been sold, and therefore dealt with the new owners for using it for filming - that's kinda what movie location scouts do
  
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  Apostasy: The Movie - Directed by Daniel Kokotajlo

  by darkspilver in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  daniel kokotajlo's new film apostasy has it's world premiere at the toronto international film festival in september 2017. apostasy.

  family and faith come into conflict for two jehovah’s witness sisters in manchester, when one is condemned for fornication and the other pressured to shun her sibling.. this fresh, unadorned first feature from director dan kokotajlo carries an unmistakable note of authenticity from its very first scenes.

  set in a jehovah's witness community in england, the film's strength and power lies in its directness.. apostasy depicts the growing rift in a family — a mother and two daughters — who are rigorously devoted to their religion.

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  jwundubbed: Okay, how do you find out if this movie will be playing anywhere near you?

  haha, the business of movie-making when you're not a 'hollywood block-buster' eh?

  It doesn't seem to be going the film festival awards routes (ie being submitted to as many film festival competitions as possible around the world).

  But it is using screenings at a FEW film festivals to pick-up buzz, generate interest and reviews (and seems to be keeping OUT of the actual competitions) - screenings done with an eye to getting companies interested in actually distributing the film (ie on semi-general release) at cinemas - this appears to be going very well... the film plays/ed at

  Toronto - for the English North American market.

  San Sebastian - for the non-English European and Spanish market (including South America).

  London - as it's a British film.

  Mumbai - for the Indian/Asia market (not so strange, as remember the film is partly set amongst the Urdu (India) speaking community in Manchester).
  

  I would not be surprised if it will try to do the same as The Children's Act, and focus on the 2019 Awards Season, with a cinema release during 2018.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5640312363941888/_post/5190908460924928