Posts by Absalom

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New David Splane Video: No 1900 Year Faithful Slave

by FusionTheism in

governing body member david splane has a new video on tv.jw.org where he talks about all the horrible things committed by martin luther and the protestant reformers.. his conclusion is that there has been no faithful and discreet slave on the earth during the past 1900 years (before 1919 i guess.).

he also says that maybe there were a few anointed on earth, maybe not.. he did add an interesting statement that he doesn't condemn the other churches just for misunderstanding the bible because the society has done that.. another odd point, was that he actually mentioned catholic missionary work in a somewhat positive light, while totally condemning the reformation views on predestination..

Absalom

He mentions that other religions were happy when others were persecuted and killed, but thats exactly how they talk about Armageddon and Babylon the Great being destroyed.

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Anyone have a recording of Imitate Christ convention?

by Maralee in

maybe it is too soon, but i would like to hear the new convention.

i would appreciate it if anyone is willing to share there recording.

thank you, maralee

Absalom

Maralee, unless the borg releases a link to the video, i dont think anyone here will record all three days.

But if you want to hear the program so badly, why not just go to the convention yourself?

I think sir82 hit the nail on the head with his summary. The new releases are copies of other past publications, and calab and sofia are guilt tripped into giving up their ice cream money. Thats how you imitate Jesus these days.

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How long until the "Generation" gets Revised/Dropped?

by Lemonp in

if you don't already know this; the latest revision of the insight book has no mention of the "overlapping generation" bs online library, insight book .

obviously that change will not bee seen by the vast majority of people, so when will this "brighter light" shine through in a wt or assembly talk?

predictions?.

Absalom

The updated insight book has removed the last paragraph that talked about tying the Generation to 1914.

If anything, I think they will have to go away from 1914.

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There's a pattern emerging

by stillin in

the congregation that i am associated with pledged a monthly amount for the construction of a new assembly hall.

after it was built, that was where we went for several years, even though it was the farthest-away place we had ever had for our circuit assemblies.. after a few years, lo and behold, our congregation is assigned to a new circuit where (surprise!

) a new assembly hall is in the early stages of construction.

Absalom

Most assembly halls are only used for 50 days out of the year. And now that they only have 1 day circuit assemblies, it will be even less than that. Why not more circuits using a hall instead of more assembly halls.

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How many here gave up having a family for the sake of the "truth"?

by stuckinarut2 in

this is a sensitive topic for many of us i know, but i am wondering how many here actually gave up the idea of having a family "in this system" for the sake of "kingdom activity or service"??.

start the count here with my wife and i.

Absalom

Stumpy- there are an awful lot of quotation marks in that article you mentioned. Also, with the talk at last years annual meeting about going away from type/antitype, does that void linking other sheep with jonadabs?

That type/antitype along with the cities of refuge was Rutherfords "proofs" of establishing the other sheep class.

I wonder how they will spin this, or just continue in silence since most dubs don't actually think about what they are teaching.

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Accidental Posting of 2015 Release on JW.ORG

by rosesinbloom in

a couple of weeks ago someone posted that jw.org accidentally posted the 2015 regional convention release.

i can not fine the thread now.. i saw a picture of it yesterday.

a sister had downloaded the pdf and read it that night.. it is a 16-page brochure entitled "return to jehovah", with a purple background.. it has been designed specifically for inactive ones are those who have been raised around the truth but never baptized.

Absalom

So witnesses downloaded something from a jw.org approved site, and are scared to show people? I have seen and heard nothing from any of my high up sources at bethel about this supposed leak. From where is her fear coming?

I don't get it at all. My family is on that stupid app everyday and they didn't see it.

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How many here gave up having a family for the sake of the "truth"?

by stuckinarut2 in

this is a sensitive topic for many of us i know, but i am wondering how many here actually gave up the idea of having a family "in this system" for the sake of "kingdom activity or service"??.

start the count here with my wife and i.

Absalom

Stumpy- You brought out a point that I can't get the answer too... Are the other sheep still considered part of the Jonadab class?

I think the borg has backed off on the no kids thing, because I truly believe they know Armageddon isn't coming anytime soon.

My wife and I are in our 30's, until last year I was very much in and was looked up too, my wife is still in, I am mentally out. I want kids but do not want them to be raised in this organization. So it looks like I am in the same boat as you stuck. Gave up my youth and have nothing to show for it.

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Accidental Posting of 2015 Release on JW.ORG

by rosesinbloom in

a couple of weeks ago someone posted that jw.org accidentally posted the 2015 regional convention release.

i can not fine the thread now.. i saw a picture of it yesterday.

a sister had downloaded the pdf and read it that night.. it is a 16-page brochure entitled "return to jehovah", with a purple background.. it has been designed specifically for inactive ones are those who have been raised around the truth but never baptized.

Absalom

will you ask the sister to send you the pdf file, and then release it?

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Where did the Buzz go?

by snugglebunny in

jw
friends

i recently came across the very first kingdom song i ever heard.

twickenham, 1955. i was just a kid then of course, but i do recall the "buzz" that seemed to permeate everything, not dis-similar to that of an international rugby match.

people were smiling while singing their hearts out, the lunch-time queues for the cafeteria full of old friends getting re-aquainted, young lads and lasses eyeing one another and blushing furiously, sessions 2 untl 4 then 7 until 9.30 giving folk plenty of time to socialise.. where did it all go wrong?.

Absalom

I think another thing that changed was taking food service out of assemblies and conventions. It seemed like those times where everyone could help out. It was a great way to meet new people. Nowadays, if you dont spiritually qualify for service, you can only volunteer to clean with your congo. No one mingles anymore, its just people talking to people they already know. There is no real love.

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Reports of lower memorial attendance

by thedepressedsoul in

i have heard a lot of reports from kingdom halls in the area that there was less than last year, for both time slots.. we had the first time slot and we were down 50+/- compared to last year.

last year we had the lobby full of people standing and this year we had empty seats and no one standing.

we ran out of parking last year and this year we made it.. like i said i am hearing quite a few reports of this from halls in our area.however, somehow the number seem to inch up every year.

Absalom

Only growth is in third world countries. I meet in a double hall, our side was standing room only, the other side had empty seats.

My hall is a very big hall of over 150 pubs, hardly anyone lives in our territory but come because the elders are friendlier. The other hall that had empty seats has extremely harsh elders and is a small congo.