this is a sensitive topic for many of us i know, but i am wondering how many here actually gave up the idea of having a family "in this system" for the sake of "kingdom activity or service"??.
start the count here with my wife and i.
Stumpy- there are an awful lot of quotation marks in that article you mentioned. Also, with the talk at last years annual meeting about going away from type/antitype, does that void linking other sheep with jonadabs?
That type/antitype along with the cities of refuge was Rutherfords "proofs" of establishing the other sheep class.
I wonder how they will spin this, or just continue in silence since most dubs don't actually think about what they are teaching.
a couple of weeks ago someone posted that jw.org accidentally posted the 2015 regional convention release.
i can not fine the thread now.. i saw a picture of it yesterday.
a sister had downloaded the pdf and read it that night.. it is a 16-page brochure entitled "return to jehovah", with a purple background.. it has been designed specifically for inactive ones are those who have been raised around the truth but never baptized.
So witnesses downloaded something from a jw.org approved site, and are scared to show people? I have seen and heard nothing from any of my high up sources at bethel about this supposed leak. From where is her fear coming?
I don't get it at all. My family is on that stupid app everyday and they didn't see it.
this is a sensitive topic for many of us i know, but i am wondering how many here actually gave up the idea of having a family "in this system" for the sake of "kingdom activity or service"??.
start the count here with my wife and i.
Stumpy- You brought out a point that I can't get the answer too... Are the other sheep still considered part of the Jonadab class?
I think the borg has backed off on the no kids thing, because I truly believe they know Armageddon isn't coming anytime soon.
My wife and I are in our 30's, until last year I was very much in and was looked up too, my wife is still in, I am mentally out. I want kids but do not want them to be raised in this organization. So it looks like I am in the same boat as you stuck. Gave up my youth and have nothing to show for it.
a couple of weeks ago someone posted that jw.org accidentally posted the 2015 regional convention release.
i can not fine the thread now.. i saw a picture of it yesterday.
a sister had downloaded the pdf and read it that night.. it is a 16-page brochure entitled "return to jehovah", with a purple background.. it has been designed specifically for inactive ones are those who have been raised around the truth but never baptized.
i recently came across the very first kingdom song i ever heard.
twickenham, 1955. i was just a kid then of course, but i do recall the "buzz" that seemed to permeate everything, not dis-similar to that of an international rugby match.
people were smiling while singing their hearts out, the lunch-time queues for the cafeteria full of old friends getting re-aquainted, young lads and lasses eyeing one another and blushing furiously, sessions 2 untl 4 then 7 until 9.30 giving folk plenty of time to socialise.. where did it all go wrong?.
i have heard a lot of reports from kingdom halls in the area that there was less than last year, for both time slots.. we had the first time slot and we were down 50+/- compared to last year.
last year we had the lobby full of people standing and this year we had empty seats and no one standing.
we ran out of parking last year and this year we made it.. like i said i am hearing quite a few reports of this from halls in our area.however, somehow the number seem to inch up every year.
Only growth is in third world countries. I meet in a double hall, our side was standing room only, the other side had empty seats.
My hall is a very big hall of over 150 pubs, hardly anyone lives in our territory but come because the elders are friendlier. The other hall that had empty seats has extremely harsh elders and is a small congo.
8you must not make for yourself a carved image+ or a form* like anything that is in the heavens above or on the earth below or in the waters under the earth.-deuteronomy 5:8. .
18 you are to make two cherubs of gold; you will make them of hammered work on the two ends of the cover.+ 19 make the cherubs on the two ends, one cherub on each end of the cover.
20 the cherubs are to spread out their two wings upward, overshadowing the cover with their wings,+ and they will face each other.
How about in the bible study this week they talked about how Jesus loved kids, yet we await a future time when Jesus is going to execute kids because their parents do not read the Watchtower!
I can feel the love right there!
so the wts just bought yet another corporate building in upstate ny.
this time it's a building to house a/v production a few minutes from patterson.
why they just don't build what they need on property they already own, i don't know.. http://www.loopnet.com/listing/17829130/39-mt-ebo-road-south-brewster-ny/.
forgive me if this has been posted already but this was in my local paper today.. http://m.recordonline.com/article/20150307/news/150309486/0/wap&template=wapart.
if you have time to read, this is an interesting article talking about watchtowers property in ulster and orange county ny and how much the properties are worth.
it also goes on to show how the tax exempt stays is hurting the communities..
Having served at the Farm, I can tell you that the local residents resent the Watchtower for this! That is people's biggest gripe.
a word to jehovahs witnesses: what is the basis for the authority the seven members of the governing body can claim in controlling the lives of eight million followers?
the organisation they represent has never got one useful piece of information correct in one hundred and thirty five years... so why should they be believed?.
