The new CO in my circuit in USA has removed 40 elders already, but none of them have been demoted to MS. I actually think it is a positive thing. Maybe it will wake more people up.
Absalom
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Demoted from elder to MS, anybody ever heard of this?
by Naoscillator inso a friend in a nearby hall told me their co came through, and in a hellish week of long meetings and inquisition overhauled the boe.
only one remains as elder, three were re-appointed as ms, and one, the cobe was deleted entirely.. two new elders were brought in as new secretary and cobe / watchtower conductor, respectively, and introduced to the congregation from the platform on sunday immediately following his second talk.
he reminded everybody of the authority he has and then named the new appointees.
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The 1995 Generation Change
by sloppyjoe2 ini was just a teenager and have a vivid memory of sitting in a chair doing a microphone for the sunday meeting.
everyone was commenting that it didn't mean the end was far off, and it didn't change the condition of the dead, or the 144,000, or the trinity so we should still remain faithful.
this is my first memory as a kid being just a teen that i ever had a single doubt.
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Magnum hit the nail on the head. Most witnesses nowaday, do not read! That is why they play so many videos now. Most dubs now just parrot what they hear from the stage or the TV show. -
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Very Offensive Statement Directed To JW Parents-Watchtower 4/15/2015 Page 11 Paragraph 9
by JW GoneBad inwt is insinuating, worse yet, blaming senior jw parents for there not being more younger brothers reaching out to be ministerial servants and elders.
page 11 paragraph 9 reads as follows: .
"elders in affluent lands may face an added challenge: how to motivate baptized brothers in their 20s or 30s to get involved in congregation activities.
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Why don't they take the time and ask the brother's in their 20's and 30's the reasons why they are not reaching out? Oh that's right, they don't want the real reason!
How would elders know the reason someone is not reaching out, when the last two study articles admit that the "teachers" having been reaching out to the "learners"
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New David Splane Video: No 1900 Year Faithful Slave
by FusionTheism ingoverning body member david splane has a new video on tv.jw.org where he talks about all the horrible things committed by martin luther and the protestant reformers.. his conclusion is that there has been no faithful and discreet slave on the earth during the past 1900 years (before 1919 i guess.).
he also says that maybe there were a few anointed on earth, maybe not.. he did add an interesting statement that he doesn't condemn the other churches just for misunderstanding the bible because the society has done that.. another odd point, was that he actually mentioned catholic missionary work in a somewhat positive light, while totally condemning the reformation views on predestination..
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He mentions that other religions were happy when others were persecuted and killed, but thats exactly how they talk about Armageddon and Babylon the Great being destroyed. -
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Anyone have a recording of Imitate Christ convention?
by Maralee inmaybe it is too soon, but i would like to hear the new convention.
i would appreciate it if anyone is willing to share there recording.
thank you, maralee
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Maralee, unless the borg releases a link to the video, i dont think anyone here will record all three days.
But if you want to hear the program so badly, why not just go to the convention yourself?
I think sir82 hit the nail on the head with his summary. The new releases are copies of other past publications, and calab and sofia are guilt tripped into giving up their ice cream money. Thats how you imitate Jesus these days.
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How long until the "Generation" gets Revised/Dropped?
by Lemonp inif you don't already know this; the latest revision of the insight book has no mention of the "overlapping generation" bs online library, insight book .
obviously that change will not bee seen by the vast majority of people, so when will this "brighter light" shine through in a wt or assembly talk?
predictions?.
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The updated insight book has removed the last paragraph that talked about tying the Generation to 1914.
If anything, I think they will have to go away from 1914.
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There's a pattern emerging
by stillin inthe congregation that i am associated with pledged a monthly amount for the construction of a new assembly hall.
after it was built, that was where we went for several years, even though it was the farthest-away place we had ever had for our circuit assemblies.. after a few years, lo and behold, our congregation is assigned to a new circuit where (surprise!
) a new assembly hall is in the early stages of construction.
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Most assembly halls are only used for 50 days out of the year. And now that they only have 1 day circuit assemblies, it will be even less than that. Why not more circuits using a hall instead of more assembly halls. -
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How many here gave up having a family for the sake of the "truth"?
by stuckinarut2 inthis is a sensitive topic for many of us i know, but i am wondering how many here actually gave up the idea of having a family "in this system" for the sake of "kingdom activity or service"??.
start the count here with my wife and i.
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Stumpy- there are an awful lot of quotation marks in that article you mentioned. Also, with the talk at last years annual meeting about going away from type/antitype, does that void linking other sheep with jonadabs?
That type/antitype along with the cities of refuge was Rutherfords "proofs" of establishing the other sheep class.
I wonder how they will spin this, or just continue in silence since most dubs don't actually think about what they are teaching.
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Accidental Posting of 2015 Release on JW.ORG
by rosesinbloom ina couple of weeks ago someone posted that jw.org accidentally posted the 2015 regional convention release.
i can not fine the thread now.. i saw a picture of it yesterday.
a sister had downloaded the pdf and read it that night.. it is a 16-page brochure entitled "return to jehovah", with a purple background.. it has been designed specifically for inactive ones are those who have been raised around the truth but never baptized.
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So witnesses downloaded something from a jw.org approved site, and are scared to show people? I have seen and heard nothing from any of my high up sources at bethel about this supposed leak. From where is her fear coming?
I don't get it at all. My family is on that stupid app everyday and they didn't see it.
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How many here gave up having a family for the sake of the "truth"?
by stuckinarut2 inthis is a sensitive topic for many of us i know, but i am wondering how many here actually gave up the idea of having a family "in this system" for the sake of "kingdom activity or service"??.
start the count here with my wife and i.
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Stumpy- You brought out a point that I can't get the answer too... Are the other sheep still considered part of the Jonadab class?
I think the borg has backed off on the no kids thing, because I truly believe they know Armageddon isn't coming anytime soon.
My wife and I are in our 30's, until last year I was very much in and was looked up too, my wife is still in, I am mentally out. I want kids but do not want them to be raised in this organization. So it looks like I am in the same boat as you stuck. Gave up my youth and have nothing to show for it.