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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=373zbncuuoq
deborah relates her experiences of being a jw in this bbc radio 4 broadcast.. deborah frances white - rolls the dice.
very funny and by and large very accurate.. fruit based economy indeed!.
88JM: Actually, this thread was started before that other one. But, eh, it don't matter. haha
Good case for threads being merged, as some people (moi) are obviously thread-blind. (I did look, didn't see it.)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05r3srd.
deborah frances-white - online.. .
spot on - and funny..
blondie posted in another thread the july 15, 2011 extra-simple wt.. paragraph 12 has an amazing double-speak therein..
this idea makes people think only about today.
they do not care about the future or about pleasing god.
Article was 3 lies of Satan.
This was one of them - that there is no future.
The 2 points I observed -
1. Worldly people are criticized for career-building, retirement planning, family planning, etc. (rearranging Titanic deck chairs, et al). Whereas the article says that they are only living for today, and not for the future.
2. (Worldy) people think only about today. We don't and we show it by the way we live - by living only for today.
blondie posted in another thread the july 15, 2011 extra-simple wt.. paragraph 12 has an amazing double-speak therein..
this idea makes people think only about today.
they do not care about the future or about pleasing god.
Blondie posted in another thread the July 15, 2011 extra-simple WT.
Paragraph 12 has an amazing double-speak therein.
In other words ...This idea makes people think only about today. They do not care about the future or about pleasing God. We might start to think like them and then become “inactive or unfruitful” in our service to God. (2 Peter 1:8) The truth is that Jehovah will soon change things on the earth, and we must show by the way we live that we really believe this. (Matthew 24:44)
despite being in for decades, i have never heard this before.. can any elders confirm this, and the reasoning?.
Despite being in for decades, I have never heard this before.
Can any elders confirm this, and the reasoning?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=373zbncuuoq
This is hardly the shocking revelation it sets out to be. You have a bunch of elders doing their best to respond to and answer one man's questions. It sounds very heavy going for both parties but full credit to both parties for doing their best to frame their questions and answers in the most helpful way.
There ain't no angels and demons here -folks - although I should imagine if the elders dared to secretly video our friend's "trial", we'd be declaring them to be very deceptive and dishonest. Funny how we don't accuse our friend of that. Hmmmmmm.
A bit of a long-winded let down.
As was posted, you are NOT ALLOWED support, direction, information or advice of any kind.
You are not told who the accusers are, or what EVIDENCE they have.
Many have posted about elders lying during the hearing that they KNOW that you have done more, so if you confess, it will be easier for you. When, in fact, they were just trying to get you to confess to every sin in your life.
These 3 elders were actually MUCH MUCH better than any other JC that I have attended or been aware of.
However, it is still nothing short of tag-team wrestling, where the opponent is trapped in the other team's corner, and tag-teamed, not just by 2, but 3 men.
Often times, the accused has not even finished answering one question, when another elder jumps in with a completely off-track question.
I would love to have a psychologist's opinion of a JC proceeding, and how they would describe this process.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=373zbncuuoq
i am not sure why more people aren't talking about this?.
the march 15 study edition of the wt has some major changes!
- all unbiblical "types and antitypes" are now dropped.
IBSA
Intelligence? Artificial! - with lots of BS inside.