Posts by berrygerry

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How Old Was Eve When She Was Tempted?

by berrygerry in

has this question ever been answered by wt or biblical apologetic?.

if near the beginning of her creation, would she not have had the effective development of a a toddler or even a baby?.

if so, would you sentence a toddler or a baby to death for grabbing an appealing candy from a bowl?.

berrygerry

Supplementary observation in Jan 15, 1958 WT QFR:

(firstly, definition of providential: involving divine foresight or intervention.)

Their first act of intercourse that the Bible records was after their expulsion from Eden as sinners...
This proved to be very providential. It made it possible for all the offspring of Adam and Eve outside the garden of Eden to be redeemed by the one human sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ. It left no child or children born perfect inside the garden of Eden who did not need to be redeemed by Christ’s sacrifice,

So, my reading of this QFR is that it was God`s foresight or intervention that disallowed any children to have been born `perfect.``

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No more official visits to disfellowshipped & disassociated ones

by AverageJoe1 in

new letter today (please visit avoidjw.org for a copy of the official letter and yes, i also noticed they got the date wrong!).

february 28, 2017. to all bodies of elders.

re: visiting disfellowshipped or disassociated individuals.

berrygerry

For example, if a disfellowshipped individual gives some evidence of changing his ways, an elder could remind the individual of how he can return to Jehovah.

Just like the prodigal's father.

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How Old Was Eve When She Was Tempted?

by berrygerry in

has this question ever been answered by wt or biblical apologetic?.

if near the beginning of her creation, would she not have had the effective development of a a toddler or even a baby?.

if so, would you sentence a toddler or a baby to death for grabbing an appealing candy from a bowl?.

berrygerry

From the pictures I've seen she was an adult, lol.

Yes, it is taught that she was created physically as an adult.

But, what about her mental capacity?

They never had sex before being expelled from the garden of Eden - why in the world not? Was it part of Eve's lack of development?

Jan 15, 1958 WT p. 63:

Their first act of intercourse that the Bible records was after their expulsion from Eden as sinners. Why they did not have intercourse and produce children during their stay in the garden of Eden is their own personal affair.

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How Old Was Eve When She Was Tempted?

by berrygerry in

has this question ever been answered by wt or biblical apologetic?.

if near the beginning of her creation, would she not have had the effective development of a a toddler or even a baby?.

if so, would you sentence a toddler or a baby to death for grabbing an appealing candy from a bowl?.

berrygerry

Has this question ever been answered by WT or Biblical apologetic?

If near the beginning of her creation, would she not have had the effective development of a a toddler or even a baby?

If so, would you sentence a toddler or a baby to death for grabbing an appealing candy from a bowl?

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J.R. Brown: Quotes, Contradictions, Lies, Deceptions, Theocratic Warfare!

by UnDisfellowshipped in

(quotes from the watchtower, october 1st, 1951 issue, pages 596-598).

" (quote from the watchtower, january 15th 1983 issue, page 22).

" (quotes from the official child abuse policy statement on the official watchtower media website at http://www.jw-media.org).

It just seems that there isn't enough in it to pin it to them

by joe134cd in

i was just thinking this morning about the court cases wt is facing and although i do think there are enough of them is there just enough in them to pin it to wt.

i sort of get the feeling a lot of these cases are revolving around the definition of terms and also an attitude of could-a, should-a, would-a.

even with the latest example it raised more questions than solutions and i'm guessing that's why it was settled out of court.

berrygerry

WT is simply applying basic risk management.

In-house lawyers, settling out-of-court - works out to be less expensive than the damage that they would incur with any mea culpa.

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It just seems that there isn't enough in it to pin it to them

by joe134cd in

i was just thinking this morning about the court cases wt is facing and although i do think there are enough of them is there just enough in them to pin it to wt.

i sort of get the feeling a lot of these cases are revolving around the definition of terms and also an attitude of could-a, should-a, would-a.

even with the latest example it raised more questions than solutions and i'm guessing that's why it was settled out of court.

berrygerry

Great link, blondie.

This paragraph should be sent to the appropriate lawyers:

"In order to adhere closely to the pattern set down in the Bible, Jehovah’s Witnesses have, not a clergy class, but unpaid spiritual shepherds and teachers who willingly minister to God’s flock."

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What have been some of the funniest local needs talks that you have heard?

by DaPriest in

i remember once in berlin south germany there was a local needs part for the men only, and how they should use the toilet.

in all seriousness for ten minutes a retarded nigerian was going on about how men need to sit down when using the toilet.

no mention of anything else.. it transpired that some little kraut boy from an "interested" family would aim for the side of the toilet and leave a great big puddle for others to clean up.

berrygerry

He spoke about the time law enforcement went on strike(can not remember the city or country) but people went nuts, running stop lights.

Expounded in multiple WT's and Awake's

How Do You View Authority?
ONE morning in October 1969, the city police in Montreal, Canada, instead of reporting for duty, went to an arena to discuss strike tactics. How would the people of the city react to this sudden absence of police authority? As anticipated, rioting and looting broke out at the hand of thugs, militant students and other opportunists. But what about the ordinary citizen, the person who might be one’s next-door neighbor? An eyewitness reported:
“I don’t mean hoodlums and habitual lawbreakers, I mean just plain people committed offenses

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"I'm Perfect, You're Doomed" . Tales from a Jehovah's Witness Upbringing

by stuckinarut2 in

hey all,.

we have purchased a bunch of great books recently, and one of them is from author kyria abrahams called "i'm perfect, you're doomed".

i'm only 5 chapters in at this stage, but i just have to share that this is a great read!.

Griffin Assembly Hall (Ft. Lauderdale, FL) now a Megachurch

by Sanchy in

jw
friends

my mom, while pregnant with me, was one of thousands of jw volunteers to work on the construction of this once beautiful assembly hall in south florida circa 1984. it had a beautiful pond, waterfall, and even a resident alligator.

many remember it as well for it's huge plaster murals on the walls showing scenes of paradises.. pics as it was before (sorry for the low quality, struggled to find good pics of the auditorium as it was, if you have any good ones, do share them):.

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berrygerry

But why did the org sell it? Circuit assemblies are such good money makers.

Keep in mind that C.A.'s are only one day in length now, while the cost remains the same as a two-day C.A.

Therefore, twice as many circuits can be exploited in one building, all the while doubling the income.