Well, I would say that this thread deserves a bump (these charts speak for themselves).
berrygerry
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No Wonder That the WT Bean-Counters are Scared
by berrygerry inhttps://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=exjw.
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https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=jw.org.
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252 Congregations have closed in Germany since 2015
by LevelThePlayingField inthis is a video from down with the tower.
it's excellent.
enjoy.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0lvvy2qurm.
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berrygerry
Anyone from Germany here? I am curious if it just might be that they closed down a lot of foreign language congregations? They did that in the Netherlands before.
The redditor is German, and speaks of resistance inside Bethel (love the terminology). He indicates the opposite - i.e. that foreign group numbers are being used to prop up the number of total congregations, while the reality is a decrease in regular congregations.
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Clue re approach to Annual Report in Jan 2018 MWB
by Nicholaus Kopernicus inat the agm on oct 7th, his eminence miserable morris iii stated the jw yearbook would cease publication and that the annual report would instead be released via the "about us" menu in the jw website.
related to this, the "life and ministry meeting workbook - january 2018 (living as christians)" outlines the following item to be considered jan 1-7 2018...."annual service report: (15 min.
) talk by an elder.
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berrygerry
had outstanding experiences in the ministry during the past year.
Right.
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JW Rumor: End of the Traveling Overseer
by Edison Trent ina friend of mine has contacts to a family with several circuit overseers and special pioneers.
they have good connections to bethel.. he told me that the latest rumor from bethel states that the cos should be abolished in their present form.
they have also recently begun to take cos back to bethel.. over the same channel i have already heard of the car fleet program and that the dos should be abolished.. has anyone else already heard of it?
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berrygerry
the present and previous CO both to be regularly substituted by local circuit elders whilst they go off to do schools elsewhere. The current CO is leaving his assignment early to go and do schools in Ireland. On his recent visit he was not even present on the Saturday am field service as he had another assignment. No one other than the elders knew in advance as no doubt it would have affected attendance.
This happened too in our hall. The CO was elsewhere. The substitute CO was a CO trainee. A young pioneer / elder with a pioneer wife. FROM OUR OWN HALL. They were both useless. Very bizarre experience.
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Listening to the meetings from the perspective of a "newly interested" person?
by stuckinarut2 injust wondering how many others (when you were still in the org) would try and listen to the meeting programmes from the perspective of a newly interested person visiting for the first time?.
i know that i did this, and most times i did, i found it disturbing!
it was not just the "in-house" language and terminology that was odd, but also the actual doctrines, and method of 'teaching' that was odd!.
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berrygerry
Why does a newly interested person actually sit through this and not find it strange, or just leave??
I have seen many leave.
I remember a hipster at a convention. He left about 15-20 minutes in.
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Blade Runner - the new movie
by days of future passed ini went to see blade runner 2 because i liked the first one.
even tho the first one was i think rated r, i still saw it.
the whole atmosphere of the first one was bizarre and real to itself.. if you don't want to be spoiled, don't read on.. with high hopes, despite hearing that it tanked at the box office (are the critics crazy?
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berrygerry
Adored the original - 5 out of 5.
Had been looking forward to 2049.
Saw the review number and was jacked.
Big disappointment.
I only liked the music.
2 out of 5.
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The Creation of Jesus
by berrygerry inseeing a trinity thread.. can a jw apologist explain what (not who) is jesus?.
prior to the creation of everything 13.7 billion years ago (draw close book), jehovah created jesus as his firstborn, his only-begotten.. there was nothing else - no stars, no dust, no matter - just jehovah - and then, just jehovah and jesus.
so, what was jesus?.
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berrygerry
David Jay:
So, essentially somewhat akin to the Great Spirit of native Indians?
Who, then, gave the 10 commandments to Moses, and all the other "inspirations"?
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Being Disfellowshipped + On-Going Cycle of Depression
by Cimarrona ini've been disfellowshipped for six years, since i was 18. i struggle with depression and self-destructive habits (minor in comparison to the suicides, substance abuse, risky sexual behavior of others i've grown up with who have left or were too afraid to leave).
i'm fairly successful for my age - respected in my field, i have an extensive curriculum vitae of published writing, presentations, and other projects.
yet, i often feel worthless and unloveable.
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It's Going Down: The Family Is About to Go to War Over... Halloween Decorations.
by Sorry inyup, you read right.
despite other personal turmoil that needs to be addressed, my family has decided to go nuts over halloween decorations being "too close" to our yard.
a new family just moved in next door; their kids are super young.
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berrygerry
I dont have much respect for Halloween based on the fact that adults spend so much time and effort to frighten young impressionable children.
Far better to groom them for a lifetime of emotional suffering from physical, emotional, and sexual abuse.
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The Creation of Jesus
by berrygerry inseeing a trinity thread.. can a jw apologist explain what (not who) is jesus?.
prior to the creation of everything 13.7 billion years ago (draw close book), jehovah created jesus as his firstborn, his only-begotten.. there was nothing else - no stars, no dust, no matter - just jehovah - and then, just jehovah and jesus.
so, what was jesus?.
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berrygerry
If Jesus is a creation, this teaching of the Witnesses is paradoxical. If Jesus is made from God, then the Nicene Creed is true, that Jesus is indeed "Light from Light, true God from true God."
This is exactly my thinking. WT is teaching the same result as Trinitarians, but using different language or wording.