Posts by berrygerry

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WTBS Canada received almost $9 million from cong. donations in 2013

by Richard_I in

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just saw this on the ex-jw subreddit.

on opencharity.ca, you can view wtbs canada's financial info and in 2013 they received almost $9 million in donations.

you can even see how much some congregations gave.

berrygerry

There are at least 6 United Way's that donated.

Very ironic.

It was brought out many times not to donate to them, as they funded abortion clinics, etc.

Nov 22, 1978 Awake!

Charity for Homosexuals
◆ “For the first time in its long history,” reports California’s San Francisco Chronicle, “the United Way (formerly United Crusade, formerly Community Chest) is funding a homosexual group; $30,000 [U.S.] to Pacific Center for Human Growth in Berkeley.” No doubt contributors will be interested to know how their money is being used.

June 8, 1980 Awake!

Unholy Alliance
◆ The National Catholic Reporter has revealed a previously unknown agreement between the Roman Catholic archdiocese of Philadelphia and the fund-raising charity United Way. It told of an unpublicized pact in 1975 between Cardinal John Krol and the then president of United Way in which United Way agreed not to give financial aid to any program or service that contradicted the “moral principles of the Catholic church.” This amounted to Church veto power over publicly collected funds. The agreement came to light when a women’s group was denied aid from United Way because of providing birth-control counseling.

There was a subsequent "Letter From Reader" - Catholic unhappy with the headline "Unholy Alliance"

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I'm Ready... Thank you

by Garrett in

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hey guys,.

so, something amazing happened recently.

i recently met with an old and very good friend of mine.

berrygerry

I would recommend either DOC's approach if you want to annoy.

If not, I like Island of Man's approach, but would keep it to one thing - child abuse.

Perhaps mention how you personally feel regarding the extent of the abuse, as well as the policies of WTS to sustain the abuse. Possibly mention to Google "Silent Lambs."

Good luck with your decision and your future.

Coining of the term Bethel

by berrygerry in

was reading a bit about the book: the life and work of henry ward beecher.. the proclaimers book (ch.

5 page 47) states:.

"in 1908, therefore, several representatives of the watch tower society, including its legal counsel, joseph f. rutherford, were sent to new york city.

berrygerry

Was reading a bit about the book: The Life and Work of Henry Ward Beecher.

The Proclaimers book (Ch. 5 page 47) states:

"In 1908, therefore, several representatives of the Watch Tower Society, including its legal counsel, Joseph F. Rutherford, were sent to New York City. Their objective? To secure property that C. T. Russell had located on an earlier trip. They purchased the old “Plymouth Bethel,” located at 13-17 Hicks Street, Brooklyn. It had served as a mission structure for the nearby Plymouth Congregational Church, where Henry Ward Beecher once served as pastor. The Society’s representatives also purchased Beecher’s former residence, a four-story brownstone at 124 Columbia Heights, a few blocks away.
The Hicks Street building was remodeled and named the Brooklyn Tabernacle. It housed the Society’s offices and an auditorium. After considerable repairs, Beecher’s former residence at 124 Columbia Heights became the new home of the Society’s headquarters staff. What would it be called? The Watch Tower of March 1, 1909, explained: “The new home we shall call ‘Bethel’ [meaning, “House of God”]."

The Proclaimers book does mention the Plymouth Bethel, which was renamed the Brooklyn Tabernacle,

However, it does not mention the name of Beecher's residence, which was mentioned in the May 1, 2009 WT:

"With the move to Brooklyn in 1909, though, the new residence for the staff members was called Bethel. Why Bethel? The property that the Watch Tower Society purchased at 13-17 Hicks Street was owned by the prominent clergyman Henry Ward Beecher and was known as the Beecher Bethel. Beecher’s former residence, located at 124 Columbia Heights, was also purchased. The March 1, 1909, issue of The Watch Tower reported: “It certainly seems very remarkable that we should get the old Beecher Bethel and then by accident get his former residence. . . . The new home we shall call ‘Bethel,’ and the new office and auditorium, ‘The Brooklyn Tabernacle’; these names will supplant the term ‘Bible House.’”"

The Proclaimers book makes it sound like the WTS invented the name Bethel.

However, WTS simply copied the term from Beecher, a prominent clergyman in one of Satan's false religions.

Hmmm.

Is Reporting Child Abuse Mandatory?

by berrygerry in

was reading the comments section of the guardian story about candace conti.. an apologist or two were defending the inaction of elders - comparing it to attorney/client privilege.. commonwealth countries do not have the same blanket coverage that is appealed to by wts.. when searching whether or not reporting is mandatory in canada, came across this site:.

http://cwrp.ca/faqs#q5 .

do i need to report child abuse and neglect?.

berrygerry

Was reading the comments section of The Guardian story about Candace Conti.

An apologist or two were defending the inaction of elders - comparing it to attorney/client privilege.

Commonwealth countries do not have the same blanket coverage that is appealed to by WTS.

When searching whether or not reporting is mandatory in Canada, came across this site:

http://cwrp.ca/faqs#Q5

Do I need to report child abuse and neglect?

Yes. Everyone has a duty to report child abuse and neglect under Canadian child welfare laws. Professionals who work with children and youth have an added responsibility to report.

You are obliged to report child maltreatment if you know or suspect it is occurring. This is called the 'duty to report'. Every person in Canada has the duty to report known or suspected child maltreatment by law.

For further information, please see the Centre of Excellence for Child Welfare's series of information sheets on provincial/territorial child welfare systems. Each sheet has a section on child welfare law, including the duty to report child maltreatment. Click here to view.

Who do I call if I suspect child abuse or neglect?

Known Known or suspected abuse or neglect of a child must be reported to:

local child welfare services (e.g., children’s aid society or child and family services agency), or
provincial/territorial social service ministries or departments, or
local police

Click here to find your local child welfare agency and phone numbers to report suspected abuse.

Any thoughts?

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JHouser's full story: Disfellowshipping: How It Can Effect Your Life

by Dogpatch in

this is used by permission, and was up last week or so in parts.

this is the whole story.. disfellowshipping: how it can effect your life.

http://www.freeminds.org/life-stories/rank-file/disfellowshipping-how-it-can-effect-your-life.html.

berrygerry

Wow.

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I've been invited to go on a habitat for humanity build

by hoser in

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i've been invited to go to central america for a week on a global village project.

.

are there any possible issues that the congregation might have with me doing this?.

berrygerry

PM sent.

WTS Sales Force

by berrygerry in

interesting letter from the boe collection recently posted.. i had never seen the blatantness of it being a book-selling business as in this letter.. http://imgur.com/kpc2hys.

berrygerry

Interesting letter from the BOE collection recently posted.

I had never seen the blatantness of it being a book-selling business as in this letter.

http://imgur.com/kpC2HYs

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Jw Business Cards??? Really???

by Nosferatu in

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i got one from my mother.

when the hell did they start doing this???.

i'm guessing this is the way they're going to do it eventually.

berrygerry

I'm thinking of getting some made with a jwfacts qr code and replacing the ones behind the literature counter.

You mean something like this (never thought of putting a QR code on. Will do with the next batch)

http://www.vistaprint.ca/lp/business-cards-next-gen-no-nav-3.aspx?couponAutoload=1&GP=2%2f27%2f2015+7%3a46%3a40+PM&GPS=3443893309&GNF=1

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JWs and the making of many books

by Magnum in

ecc 12:12 - "to the making of many books there is no end, and much devotion [to them] is wearisome to the flesh.".

i just never could keep up with all the jw reading material.

as a zealous jw, it was my desire to read every word published by the org, but i just couldn't do it.

berrygerry

Then the final insult was the absolute dumbing down of all material that followed. The Watchtower now is an absolute joke. What isnt written at the level of a small child is just copy/paste from other literature with a "the" taken out or a "as we see" inserted.

If you analyze the growth in the past, it came from people that were familiar with the Bible.

All of the new growth is from lands extremely unfamiliar with the Bible, and with economic uncertainty or stress - hence, the simple desire to see everything end, and the new world to begin.