Posts by berrygerry

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Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief

by Rufus T. Firefly in

i hope this link works for everyone.

if you can watch this video, i think you will find it very interesting how closely scientology resembles the watchtower society.

for example, the watchtower's 'apostates' equate to scientology's 'suppressives.

Funny Story, I started reading Reddit today....

by eyefell4it2 in

ok so maybe i am a bit old school, late to the party, or whatever but i just discovered some subreddits (other than ex-jw) that have me completely addicted to the site.

for the whole afternoon, i have been going through the tifu section (pm me if you can't find the meaning of the acronym but just google it and the meaning should come up).

anyways, i thought i would share some funny ones here because, hey, we all need a good laugh and there's plenty of laugh provoking material on the net.

Disfelowshipping / Expelling

by freein2004 in

the insight book volume 1 page 788 uses matthew 5:22 and acts 10:28 as biblical support for dfing and shunning.. thoughts?

hopefully someone upload the insight book page here.

i don't have the means.. i should have said that basically the top paragraph in the insight book is supporting shunning because the israelites shunned the man of the nations and tax collectors?

berrygerry

4 points:

- Tax collectors and sinners. Jesus was criticized for fraternizing with them.

- Insight book states that religious societies have a "right inherent" analogous to the powers of capital punishment - hence, the ridiculous notion many elders have that they should be able to stone someone to death for smoking, etc. (From where does this "right inherent" arrive?)

- Jehovah's Action - For Miriam, she suffered "a humiliating seven-day quarantine" (Insight 2, page 415). Hardly a 3 to 5 year psychological exile, including that of minors and other immediate family.

_ The following paragraph was not in the Aid book, but another alteration because of the 1980/81 purge: "However, regarding any who were Christians but later repudiated the Christian congregation or were expelled from it, the apostle Paul commanded: “Quit mixing in company with” such a one; and the apostle John wrote: “Never receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him.”—1Co 5:11; 2Jo 9, 10.
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Disfelowshipping / Expelling

by freein2004 in

the insight book volume 1 page 788 uses matthew 5:22 and acts 10:28 as biblical support for dfing and shunning.. thoughts?

hopefully someone upload the insight book page here.

i don't have the means.. i should have said that basically the top paragraph in the insight book is supporting shunning because the israelites shunned the man of the nations and tax collectors?

berrygerry

Mary:

Do you have that posted online somewhere?

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JW Cart's Family Photos. My Pusher stole my JWCart1975 I.D. but here I am!

by JWCart in

some of us ride, some of us roll.. .

family reunion of jw carts gathering together for missionary work, some people waste their time in liberia trying to help ebola victims, jehovah's organization spends all their time focused on meaningful endeavors by bringing them salvation.

pusher said "why bother helping when people are going to die anyway, focus on the big picture (joining jehovah's organization is the only way to eliminate homelessness, hunger and global issues", doctors waste their time in west africa when they could be pushing carts with literature and books, that's real healing", i still don't understand why we can't help the poor and sick but than again, i am just a jw cart!.

berrygerry

Does death end it all?

No.

Weekend at Bernadette's.

Until she is removed, her time counts.

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with what then seemed to be Jehovah’s will

by berrygerry in

interesting phrase.. jan 15, 2001 wt.

there was one exception.

in 1940, hayden c. covingtonthen the societys legal counsel and one of the other sheep, with the earthly hopewas elected a director of the society.

berrygerry

Interesting phrase.

Jan 15, 2001 WT

There was one exception. In 1940, Hayden C. Covington—then the Society’s legal counsel and one of the “other sheep,” with the earthly hope—was elected a director of the Society. (John 10:16) He served as the Society’s vice president from 1942 to 1945. At that time, Brother Covington stepped aside as a director to comply with what then seemed to be Jehovah’s will—that all directors and officers of the Pennsylvania corporation be anointed Christians.

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WTBS Canada received almost $9 million from cong. donations in 2013

by Richard_I in

jw
friends

just saw this on the ex-jw subreddit.

on opencharity.ca, you can view wtbs canada's financial info and in 2013 they received almost $9 million in donations.

you can even see how much some congregations gave.

berrygerry

There are at least 6 United Way's that donated.

Very ironic.

It was brought out many times not to donate to them, as they funded abortion clinics, etc.

Nov 22, 1978 Awake!

Charity for Homosexuals
◆ “For the first time in its long history,” reports California’s San Francisco Chronicle, “the United Way (formerly United Crusade, formerly Community Chest) is funding a homosexual group; $30,000 [U.S.] to Pacific Center for Human Growth in Berkeley.” No doubt contributors will be interested to know how their money is being used.

June 8, 1980 Awake!

Unholy Alliance
◆ The National Catholic Reporter has revealed a previously unknown agreement between the Roman Catholic archdiocese of Philadelphia and the fund-raising charity United Way. It told of an unpublicized pact in 1975 between Cardinal John Krol and the then president of United Way in which United Way agreed not to give financial aid to any program or service that contradicted the “moral principles of the Catholic church.” This amounted to Church veto power over publicly collected funds. The agreement came to light when a women’s group was denied aid from United Way because of providing birth-control counseling.

There was a subsequent "Letter From Reader" - Catholic unhappy with the headline "Unholy Alliance"

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I'm Ready... Thank you

by Garrett in

jw
friends

hey guys,.

so, something amazing happened recently.

i recently met with an old and very good friend of mine.

berrygerry

I would recommend either DOC's approach if you want to annoy.

If not, I like Island of Man's approach, but would keep it to one thing - child abuse.

Perhaps mention how you personally feel regarding the extent of the abuse, as well as the policies of WTS to sustain the abuse. Possibly mention to Google "Silent Lambs."

Good luck with your decision and your future.

Coining of the term Bethel

by berrygerry in

was reading a bit about the book: the life and work of henry ward beecher.. the proclaimers book (ch.

5 page 47) states:.

"in 1908, therefore, several representatives of the watch tower society, including its legal counsel, joseph f. rutherford, were sent to new york city.

berrygerry

Was reading a bit about the book: The Life and Work of Henry Ward Beecher.

The Proclaimers book (Ch. 5 page 47) states:

"In 1908, therefore, several representatives of the Watch Tower Society, including its legal counsel, Joseph F. Rutherford, were sent to New York City. Their objective? To secure property that C. T. Russell had located on an earlier trip. They purchased the old “Plymouth Bethel,” located at 13-17 Hicks Street, Brooklyn. It had served as a mission structure for the nearby Plymouth Congregational Church, where Henry Ward Beecher once served as pastor. The Society’s representatives also purchased Beecher’s former residence, a four-story brownstone at 124 Columbia Heights, a few blocks away.
The Hicks Street building was remodeled and named the Brooklyn Tabernacle. It housed the Society’s offices and an auditorium. After considerable repairs, Beecher’s former residence at 124 Columbia Heights became the new home of the Society’s headquarters staff. What would it be called? The Watch Tower of March 1, 1909, explained: “The new home we shall call ‘Bethel’ [meaning, “House of God”]."

The Proclaimers book does mention the Plymouth Bethel, which was renamed the Brooklyn Tabernacle,

However, it does not mention the name of Beecher's residence, which was mentioned in the May 1, 2009 WT:

"With the move to Brooklyn in 1909, though, the new residence for the staff members was called Bethel. Why Bethel? The property that the Watch Tower Society purchased at 13-17 Hicks Street was owned by the prominent clergyman Henry Ward Beecher and was known as the Beecher Bethel. Beecher’s former residence, located at 124 Columbia Heights, was also purchased. The March 1, 1909, issue of The Watch Tower reported: “It certainly seems very remarkable that we should get the old Beecher Bethel and then by accident get his former residence. . . . The new home we shall call ‘Bethel,’ and the new office and auditorium, ‘The Brooklyn Tabernacle’; these names will supplant the term ‘Bible House.’”"

The Proclaimers book makes it sound like the WTS invented the name Bethel.

However, WTS simply copied the term from Beecher, a prominent clergyman in one of Satan's false religions.

Hmmm.

cute -

by berrygerry in

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