Posts by berrygerry

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Shunning ? did JEHOVAH shun Satan ?

by smiddy in

i don`t know if this has been addressed before , however it appears there is an inconsistency and a big one at that with the practice of shunning with jw`s.

elders / ministerial servants look out for the spiritual health of the congregation , and if they see something they feel is detrimental to the spiritual health of the congregation they are going to act to rectify it, .

they take appropiate action where they think is necessary .

berrygerry

Not only did God continue to speak with the original apostate Satan,

God also allowed Satan to enter into the midst of the assembled angels, and then allowed him to speak before all.

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Bending Truth - CO Talk - Time and Money Invested

by berrygerry in

watched the bending truth video last week - an essential for those asking "why?

" people join, and why people stay.. the co's talk on inspired truth and inspired error made much reference to habakkuk "not be late.".

and then, they actually verbalized the bending truth video, for those wondering about the delay, and what to do.. "think about how much time and money you have already invested in serving jehovah.

berrygerry

Watched the Bending Truth video last week - an essential for those asking "Why?" people join, and why people stay.

The CO's talk on Inspired Truth and Inspired Error made much reference to Habakkuk "not be late."

And then, they actually verbalized the Bending Truth video, for those wondering about the delay, and what to do.

"Think about how much time and money you have already invested in serving Jehovah."
Could not believe my ears.

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"High" education

by Esmeralda001 in

did any of you guys disregard the wt recommendations and pursue a career.

if you answer "yes": was your journey easy?

are you happy with the end result?

berrygerry

Sorry, misread the thread - probably should have been "Higher Education"

http://www.hightimes.com/tag/high-times-magazine

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Old, Faithful and Forgotten...

by rrb2016 in

had a conversation with my jw mother the other day.

she has been baptized for over 50 years.

i've been out for 30 years, but because both my mother and mother-in-law are jw's i keep up with all things jw.

berrygerry

But yeah, back on topic, the WTS seems to be coldly in different to those who are 70+ and can't or won't adapt to new technology. I think many are feeling left behind.
Odd, since those are the ones who might have left them generous sums in their wills. Once again, the WTS appears to be unable to stop shooting its own feet.

Sorry, having witnessed behind-the-scenes the difference of treatment of widows with WT in their wills, and widows with WT not in their wills (or else, just poor). The difference in treatment is remarkable.

WTS has been compared to a Mob organization.

But, at least the Mob cares for its own.

WTS - do you have any money? No! Goodbye and Good Luck! (Whoops, said Good Luck)

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Undeclared changes to the 2013 NWT

by Doug Mason in

in the following from the 2013 edition of the nwt, the watchtower society indicates that when it released its initial 1950 edition, it considered the greek text provided by westcott and hort as its master text.

as a result of these additional masters, the wts made some undeclared changes to the 2013 nwt.

it does not list these changes or give any explanations.. greek text: in the late 19th century, scholars b. f. westcott and f.j.a.

berrygerry

So in John 17: 3 they have dropped " Taking in knowledge of you"

Actually, it has been moved to footnote status.

Do not forget that that wording was the entire theme of the "study book" that preceded the Bible teach book.

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He puts it in their hearts

by ThinkerBelle in

at meeting yesterday a thought came to me - my mind was wandering most of the session as it was so boring - about how the jws say that god will put it into the hearts of the political leaders to overturn religion at the start of the great tribulation.

they also claim this about maneuvered events in the ot too.

jws also claim that when someone has the right heart condition, they come to find jah.

berrygerry

On that same line, god has to put it into the minds of the nations to turn on his people??? So god has to take away the Free Will of the nations to do something (they would have not done) attack JWs? god makes people do evil things?

This always caused CD in me:

Exodus 7:3

"But I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and though I multiply my signs and wonders in Egypt," Then, as a result, in verse 14
"Then the LORD said to Moses, "Pharaoh's heart is unyielding; he refuses to let the people go.""

Similarly Ex. 9:12

But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart and he would not listen to Moses and Aaron, just as the LORD had said to Moses.

(Note: NWT says "allowed to become" "But Jehovah allowed Pharʹaoh’s heart to become obstinate" - but EVERY translation on Biblehub says that Jehovah hardened his heart.)

"Pulpit Commentary

Verse 12. - And the Lord hardened Pharaoh's heart. Up to this time the hardening of Pharaoh's heart has been ascribed to himself, or expressed indefinitely as a process that was continually going on - now for the first time it is positively stated that God hardened his heart, as he had threatened that he would (Exodus 4:21). On the general law of God's dealings with wicked men, see the comment on the above passage "

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How do you overcome SHUNNING after leaving the organization and move on?

by suavojr in

jw
friends

it amazes me how many of you have left it all behind, including family, brothers and sisters, friends and a full network of people.

i for one cannot find the courage to breakaway, and this causes me great anxiety and stress.

it eats me alive to think that if i open my mouth everyone i know will simply turn their back on me.

berrygerry

There is no "one size fits all' to this situation.

Family complications are obviously the biggest issue, which the Borg knows only too well.

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Watchtower properties for sale website

by NewYork44M in

jw
friends

here is a great site in case anyone is interested in acquiring wt property in brooklyn heights.

https://www.watchtowerbrooklynrealestate.com/.

berrygerry

There's no mention on that site about how potential buyers are doomed to destruction by Jesus H. Christ flinging flaming hailstones at their heads "very soon now".

Yep. Non-disclosure of a latent defect.

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The Elders are Coming Help!

by LaurenM in

so the elders keep bugging me and pestering me about having a meeting with them to "introduce me to my new congregation" for some reason (do any ex elders know what that even means??).

i keep postponing and making excuses and they are getting more and more aggressive.

i finally agreed for them to come over today, but really don't want to..should i hide from them again?

berrygerry

If a new congo, did you move?

If so, how did they get your new address?

(Once you've dealt with the present situation, never give out your address, phone or work again.)

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Deborah

by berrygerry in

i, like many others, was furiously emailing about deborah when the issue of only male elders came up.. it seemed curious that angus didn't address deborah, as he surely knew of it.. thankfully, ol' geoff, and wt, cannot resist trying to get in a last word, which opened the door for angus.

(he's one cool customer.).

341 in his written statement provided to the royal commission following the close of thepublic hearing, mr jackson offered the relevant scriptural references to which headverted but was unable to provide during the hearing.

berrygerry

He (Angus) did not make a mistake.

The guy is a legal genius.