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  Would you have done what Adam did?

  by thinker11 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  every religious group know the story of adam & eve.

  for me, i understood what they did was wrong but i never felt they were bad people and considering that they never murdered anyone and seemed to live normal lives after being kicked out, i found it hard to accept that they deserved to die forever and that we would be responsible for suffering for their mistakes.

  i personally feel like i might have done the same thing adam did when eve offered him the fruit.

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  berrygerry

  Summoning Blondie -

  I remember comments to the effect that Adam should have had faith in Sky-J that He would have created a substitute to replace the seduced Eve.

  Any recollections to such a reference?
  
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  Lets hear what your local needs was about this week

  by dbq407 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  ours started out with matt.

  25:23. he brought out that "good and faithful slave" was talking about the anointed but wait for it.........yes the principle can be applied to our cong.

  well tonight it was about getting all the territories worked once a year.

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  berrygerry

  Yes he was quoting a watchtower from a few years ago

  Could anyone provide a reference?
  
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  I think my Sunday speaker is awake

  by Yondaime in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi guys and gals,.

  its been a long time since i've posted here, i've been caught up with school and work so i've never had the time to post on the forum, but i've still been reading through some articles on here.

  now that finals are over i have some time to breath.

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  berrygerry

  it was a regular public talk.

  That is not a regular public talk.
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  Prince was on the board of directors for the WTS

  by Barrold Bonds in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was talking with a friend of mine who knows a few people in the home department at bethel.

  apparently, prince was, as i noted in the title, on the board of directors.

  he apparently was sort of a silent partner or advisor in the whole thing.

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  berrygerry

  And, in other news, Barbara Anderson has been invited back to Bethel's Writing Department (with pay).
  
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  Prince was on the board of directors for the WTS

  by Barrold Bonds in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was talking with a friend of mine who knows a few people in the home department at bethel.

  apparently, prince was, as i noted in the title, on the board of directors.

  he apparently was sort of a silent partner or advisor in the whole thing.

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  berrygerry

  Prince had actually been auditioning for the role of Austin Power's Mini-me, but got cut for not being tall enough without heels.
  
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  Hard to Remember but Back in the Ninteen Fifies...

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my writing a book about my strange life as a jw.

  i need some help.. does anyone remember when they used to get these charts out at the service meetings which had all the hours, "back calls" and bible studies on it?

  what did they call that?.

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  berrygerry

  a cardboard prop to look like a car

  We had this one as well, four chairs arranged behind the cardboard to look like a group in service.

  One of my favourites was the segment of the Theocratic News (in the KM, done one SM in a month).

  The bros made a cardboard TV set, with a cut-out the size of the TV screen.

  Speaker says, And now, with the Theocratic News, Br. Schmo.

  Br. Schmo (inside mock TV): Good evening, ...

  Also, with the written review, the review sheets were passed out, as well as pieces of thin pressboard, smooth on one side, to use as backing for writing the written review, The written review was passed to a neighbour for evaluation - the kids were always strict in marking each other's answers.
  
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  the Guardians of Doctrine - What was your view of GB 1.0?

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i was an all-in, younger, somewhat uber-dub - i envisioned the governing body as spending 16 to 18 hours a day at the bethel library, with their noses in the bible and associated research books.

  sky-j was propelling his holy spirit directly at them, maybe opening the book to the right page or paragraph, and zap, new light.. when i learned that these dudes only met on wednesday mornings, for as little as 10 minutes, and spent the rest of their time managing and traveling, it was quite a letdown.. anyone have such thoughts of our guardians of doctrine?.

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  When I was an all-in, younger, somewhat uber-Dub - I envisioned the Governing Body as spending 16 to 18 hours a day at the Bethel library, with their noses in the Bible and associated research books. Sky-J was propelling his Holy Spirit directly at them, maybe opening the book to the right page or paragraph, and ZAP, new light.

  When I learned that these dudes only met on Wednesday mornings, for as little as 10 minutes, and spent the rest of their time MANAGING and traveling, it was quite a letdown.

  Anyone have such thoughts of our Guardians Of Doctrine?
  
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  WT's expert on blood!

  by Joyzabel in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  the january 8, 2000 awake magazine published an article "the growing demand for bloodless medicine and surgery".

  this article has been quoted extensively by jws as support for their "scientific" justification for refusing blood products.. a quote from that article that is familiar to most jws and exjws is this one:.

  “all those dealing with blood and caring for surgical patients have to consider bloodless surgery.”—dr.

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  berrygerry

  No need for retraction.

  There will be a providential reason for this that will be revealed in the unknown future.

  Same thing happened with 1914.
  

  Revelation Climax book:
  

  [Footnote]
  Providentially, those Bible Students had not realized that there is no zero year between “B.C.” and “A.D.” Later, when research made it necessary to adjust B.C. 606 to 607 B.C.E., the zero year was also eliminated, so that the prediction held good at “A.D. 1914.”
  
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  History of DF - Question

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from reading crisis of a conscience and members here, i have gathered that df was originally a means to cleanse bethel and stop apostates from spreading their own thinking inside the organization.

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  when did it also branch over to sinners that were struggling with an issue that relapsed on multiple occasions?

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  http://www.taxfundedabuse.ca/shunning.php

  Key scriptures overlooked by WT:

  James 5:15 "will be forgiven" (not conditional on a committee's whim - WILL BE forgiven )

  James 4:11, 12 "He who speaks against a brother or judges his brother speaks against law and judges law. Now if you judge law, you are, not a doer of law, but a judge. 12 One there is that is lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But you, who are you to be judging [your] neighbor?"

  Also see Draw Close to Jehovah, ch. 16, par 14

  Why must we “stop judging” others? For one thing, our authority is limited. The disciple James reminds us: “One there is that is lawgiver and judge”—Jehovah. So James pointedly asks: “Who are you to be judging your neighbor?” (James 4:12; Romans 14:1-4) In addition, our sinful nature can so easily render our judgments unfair. Many attitudes and motives—including prejudice, injured pride, jealousy, and self-righteousness—can distort the way we see fellow humans. We have further limitations, and reflecting on these should restrain us from being quick to find fault with others. We cannot read hearts; nor can we know all the personal circumstances of others. Who, then, are we to impute wrong motives to fellow believers or to criticize their efforts in God’s service? How much better it is to imitate Jehovah by looking for the good in our brothers and sisters rather than focusing on their failings!
  
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  Going Back To Meeting Tomorrow

  by Hadriel in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm returning to jehovah tomorrow night.

  but yeah i'm going to the meeting to put in my token visit as part of my fade.

  even if you don't believe in god pray that i can keep my mouth shut for a couple of hours because it's going to be awfully hard to do so.. before i woke i was quite involved, commented a ton, personable.

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  berrygerry

  If the elders give you a hard time tell them you have anal stenosis along with a raging case of hemorrhoids. Tell them that you acquired it from not wiping properly. Tell them that you get relief from freezing hot dogs and sticking them up there. Tell them that you don't like wasting food so you boil em up afterwards.

  I go through about six a day - would you like to come by after the meeting for hot dogs and beer?