Posts by berrygerry

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Who Starts the Great Tribulation - Jehovah or Satan?

by berrygerry in

who starts the great tribulation - jehovah or satan?.

berrygerry

So, the basic premise remains unchanged: God starts the GT by destroying religion.

http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/402015523?q=How+will+the+great+tribulation+begin&p=sen

How will the great tribulation begin? The book of Revelation answers by describing the destruction of “Babylon the Great.” (Rev. 17:5-7) How appropriate that all false religion is likened to a prostitute! ... But who will destroy the harlotlike organization? Jehovah God will put “his thought” into the hearts of “the ten horns” of the “scarlet-colored wild beast.” These horns represent all the present political powers that give support to the United Nations

If this is to parallel 66 - 70 CE, then God brought that tribulation, and will bring the GT.

What purpose would these serve, as "the door" of salvation has been shut? Would this not mean that the suffering during these tribulations was (will be) intentionally inflicted by God?

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Major congregational quake in Southern California

by Hecce in

this notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.

a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.

the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.

berrygerry

Hiking barefoot for three days though crocodile-infested waters

Each way. Twice per week.

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Who Starts the Great Tribulation - Jehovah or Satan?

by berrygerry in

who starts the great tribulation - jehovah or satan?.

berrygerry

Who Starts the Great Tribulation - Jehovah or Satan?

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Major congregational quake in Southern California

by Hecce in

this notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.

a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.

the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.

berrygerry

then scratching my head when the meeting would be cancelled because of an inch-and-a-half of snow.

That changed from the old days because of congo liability risk.

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Will the UN turn on Religion?

by no-zombie in

as all witnesses know, the opening gambit of the great tribulation will occur when the united nations turns on organized religion to devastate them and leave them naked of people and resources.

however, as jehovah's judgement day has been spoken of as being "imminent", the question that can be fairly asked ... 'is the united nations organization actually in a position to act as god's destroyer of false religion?

while i have no doubt that most within that organization had in the past tried to make the lives of the desperate better, the united nations has unfortunately now become a weak and underfunded political eunuch.

berrygerry

But the members of the security council have been telling Russia that they are being rude. /s

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Are we victims of abuse? Should we even think of ourselves that way?

by nicolaou in

jw
friends

abuse is such a serious word and i'd hate to use it lightly so if anyone reading this has suffered physical or sexual abuse please know that i absolutely do not equate religious abuse with your suffering.

that being said, many of us were lied to and manipulated for decades.

this cultic 'abuse' has borne fruit in shattered relationships, broken families and estranged children.

berrygerry

A complete culture of abuse.

Unquestioning obedience to a corporation, then to its executives, then to its overseers, then to the parents.

Abuse saturated throughout, permeating every element of life.

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Assembly day - La Féria, tx stats

by StarTrekAngel in

just quick post for stats.

1300 attendance .

4 baptism, 3 adults and 12 year old son of an elder from my cong.

berrygerry

Wow. 0.3%. Yet of the dozens or so reports of statistics I have seen over the last 6 months or so, only 1 or 2 have got close to 1%. I can't wait to see the yearbook stats at the end of the year.

This year is following last year's trend, of .5% average baptism rate.

Yearbook stats will be the same - FLAT.

It will be interesting to see the creativity in 2017. If little or none, we should finally see some decline in the 2018 Yearbook.

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need input: My older son has an interesting theory as to why my wife has her head in a watchtower 90% of the time

by goingthruthemotions in

i am still having issues with my still in wife.

my two son's and i don't want anything to do with the cult.

our marriage is a battle ground all the time.

berrygerry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

http://www.hgi.org.uk/resources/delve-our-extensive-library/society-and-culture/exploring-cult-culture

Why people join cults
“Cults form and thrive,” says Deikman, “not because people are crazy, but because they have two kinds of wishes. They want a meaningful life, to serve God or humanity; and they want to be taken care of, to feel protected and secure, to find a home. The first motives may be laudable and constructive, but the latter exert a corrupting effect, enabling cult leaders to elicit behaviour directly opposite to the idealistic vision with which members entered the group.
But cults, because they only serve the leader, exploit and pervert that useful habit and, to establish and maintain itself, does everything possible to destroy family ties, and any other secure and conventional anchor in a person's life. This has the effect of strengthening a member's bond with the cult and its leader. From this viewpoint, the cults that promote celibacy and the cults that encourage indulgence in sexual promiscuity are seeking the same ends — the destruction of normal family life and the substitution of dependence on the cult group authority. Although ordinary institutions in our society do not yet directly seek to destroy family ties, 'nanny state' interference may be having a similar effect.

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/helping-someone-leave.php

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Logical Problem with WT Anointed

by Vanderhoven7 in

the watchtower september 1, 1951, in a wonderful article entitled “hated for his name”(pp518,519) describes the persecution and martyrdom of steadfast christians in the first 3 centuries ad.. by the year (a.d.) 64 christianity was.

prominent throughout much of the roman.

empire, including the capital city.

berrygerry

In the province of Egypt alone, 144,000 such professed Christians died by violence in the course of this persecution,

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When Israel was a child, I loved him, and out of Egypt I called my son.

Hmmmm.

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Are Gods true worshippers on Earth today? If they are not JWs then who are they?

by Formerbrother in

is there gods true worshipers on earth today as jesus said there would be?

if they are not jws then who are they?.

who else comes close to being gods true followers today?.

berrygerry

If we go with the premise that a god created man - why MUST that god be worshipped?

Who benefits from this worship - the god?

So this god, then, only created us to stroke his ego?

His motivation seems, shall we say, somewhat lacking.

Are you a parent?

Did you tell your children: "Love me or die?"

http://biblehub.com/deuteronomy/30-19.htm

In the entire history of all religion, how does that particular god benefit by being worshipped?

However, who does benefit from being the conduit to the one true religion? Watch Tower is no different from all the others.

Religion is a snare and a racket. Bring your chequebook.