Posts by berrygerry

33

New, but needed to vent- thank you :-)

by Danni Jackson in

i discovered your website this morning as i was trying to find some information about 'marking'.

you see a very close friend of mine was 'marked' earlier this week and as i know the ins and outs of the situation (as we are close friends) i disregarded the talk immediately as i know my friend is obviously having issues but is no way a 'danger' to anybody else's spiritual health.

basically they are dating a non-believer- hence the talk.

berrygerry

Marking is a very mean and devastating thing to do.... it is mental cruelty.

Shunning - lite.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=IaUhR-tRkHY

46

FYI, Eloise Dupuis, 27, a JW, died last Wednesday in a Quebec hospital because she refused a blood transfusion

by AndersonsInfo in

i just received the following message from a friend this morning.. barbara.

eloise dupuis, 27 years old, died at the hotel dieu hospital in lévis, quebec, canada, wednesday, october 12th.

she died because of her religious principles.

berrygerry

The friend of Eloise Dupuis said in an interview with VAT News she wants the family and relatives of the young woman for what happened. "There is an army behind it. We're going to change things, "she said.

Interesting article with leaked info:

http://jwsurvey.org/news/news-bulletin-eloise-dupuis-dead-at-27-watchtower-claims-another-victim-son-left-motherless

30

I found a list my Wife is makingof subjects i have told her about the BORG.

by goingthruthemotions in

so me and my wife have not been on speaking terms for about 5 weeks, and when we do .

talk…it is arguing about the jw cult and more of a barrage from me telling here all the stuff i have learned.

i know i shouldn't do this....but, i get so freaking p.o ed aobut what this cult has done to my family.

berrygerry

This could, conceivably, lead to her telling you to vacate the house. You need to prepare an escape plan, more like a survival plan. Prepare yourself mentally and financially. A simple insurance policy. One day she tells you it's over and your out. You end up sleeping in your Toyota, asking yourself, " what do I do now"?
Think I am kidding? You may have to learn the hard way.

This is happening with an increasing frequency.

30

I found a list my Wife is makingof subjects i have told her about the BORG.

by goingthruthemotions in

so me and my wife have not been on speaking terms for about 5 weeks, and when we do .

talk…it is arguing about the jw cult and more of a barrage from me telling here all the stuff i have learned.

i know i shouldn't do this....but, i get so freaking p.o ed aobut what this cult has done to my family.

berrygerry

Faded
Is there a chance this is a list of "proof" she is going to take to the elders to out you as an apostate? That's what my guess is.

This is precisely what is going on.

You need to do an immediate 180° and uber-Dub it for the next month.

Then read this:

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/helping-someone-leave.php

41

what are your thoughts on this quote from the elders book?

by aboveusonlysky in

'in order to extend mercy, the committee must be convinced that the wrongdoer has a changed heart condition and that he has a zeal to right the wrong and is absolutely determined to avoid it in the future.'.

shepherd the flock page 91. i remember this is one of the first things that concerned me as an elder because it seemed to sound like a person is guilty until proven innocent rather than 'love believes all things', especially given the word 'convinced' appears in bold.. then in a training video one elder said something like 'unless we are convinced of repentance the shepherd the flock book says we must disfellowship'.

that was the begining of the end for me as i thought surely true christians would reason the other way round and show mercy wherever possible.. any thoughts?.

berrygerry

Yes, his way of judging can be summed up as follows: firmness where necessary, mercy wherever possible.—2 Peter 3:9.

http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102002034?q=mercy+possible&p=sen

These spiritually qualified men are well aware that justice, or righteousness, requires that the congregation be kept clean. At times, elders are obliged to judge cases of serious wrongdoing. When doing so, they remember that divine justice seeks to extend mercy if at all possible.

http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102002039?q=mercy+possible&p=sen

19

Final Rejection

by Disassociated Lady 2 in

i have just returned from visiting friends and family.

when i was disassociated my parents had contact with me a few months before my dad was diagnosed with cancer.

i was reinstated 20 months after his funeral and then they disfellowshipped me 5 months later as they are convinced i had not changed my life enough to be a jw again.

berrygerry

normal family affections and dealings continue.

https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/shunning/

21

Hypothetical: If WTS Reformed...?

by Cold Steel in

as i said in the subject line, this is purely hypothetical.

what do you think would happen if the wtbts leaders decided to reboot some of the organization's more controversial practices.

not that they would deny their claims to be jehovah's earthly representatives, nor the key elements of their eschatology; but in administrative outlooks.

berrygerry

https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/hypothetical

hypothetical

Everyone who has ever taken a science class knows the word "hypothesis," which means an idea, or a guess, that you are going to test through an experiment. A hypothetical is related to that. It means something based on an informed guess.

As I said in the Subject line, this is purely hypothetical.

This is not hypothetical.

47

CO visit... Circuit is not growing at all, he said during midweek meeting

by StarTrekAngel in

so that was a "shocker".

i was not able to attend the meeting.

i had a more important one with my other apostate friends in the area.

berrygerry

As one JW uber-couple recently said, "Jehovah has put on the brakes." This is was in reference to the halting of projects, less money coming in, and Bethel lay-offs.

Were they asked why?

8