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  If God is real?

  by suavojr in

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  if after you die you find yourself in front a god ready to judge you.

  what will you say in your defense for not believing?

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  Perry, why do you think there is a huge problem if God doesnt judge sin?

  honestly, that is a baffling opinion and statement...

  why do you need any deity to behave morally?
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  If God is real?

  by suavojr in

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  if after you die you find yourself in front a god ready to judge you.

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  So, Perry, following your argument, how do you justify the murder, genocide and general smiting in the OT?

  How can you be sure that your personal God exists, and none of the other thousands do?

  I think all of these stories confirm is a deep felt human need, but that doesnt constitute evidence of any divine existance.
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  If God is real?

  by suavojr in

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  if after you die you find yourself in front a god ready to judge you.

  what will you say in your defense for not believing?

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  I would suggest that a God who condones murder and genocide isnt worthy of my worship...

  this is my motto, with thanks to Epicurus

  Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?

  Then he is not omnipotent.

  Is he able to prevent evil, but not willing?

  then he is malevolent.

  Is he neither willing nor able?

  Then why call him God
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  what to do when you have a crazy friend?

  by losingit in

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  it's hard for me to start this topic bc i feel like i'm being judgmental, a quality i don't like in others and one i try to stay away from as much as possible.

  i really do try to be an understanding, caring person.

  i essentially believe that all people are good and i am shocked to my core when i am betrayed.

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  What would be your motivation of contacting this poor wife? destroy her life? She's the only victim in all of this...

  I would distance myself as much as possible and as kindly as possible from her, she is potentially very dangerous...

  I would tend to disbelieve anything she told me..

  Her life choices are her own business, but basicly she sounds that she may never be able to stand on her own two feet,and may go from one unsafe and inappropriate relationship to another...
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  Hi Guys, I'm new here...

  by Mikado in

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  been lurking for years, but couldn't log on.

  for some reason, my email spam filter is inaccessable, and ended up having to open another account, simply to become a member... wonder how many others have had a similar problem.. its been an eye opener reading everyones life experiences, often so similar.. i was almost a born in, with a hardcore family.

  abusive stepfather who was one of the original jws in the area, so much so, that it was called the xxxxx family religion.... been out for 25 years, am glad every day for that!!.

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  thanks for such a marvellous welcome..

  I like the walking wounded sentiment, I suspect it's true, but honestly I regard myself as a survivor.

  my comment saying my partner is a "spiritually weak', was tongue in cheek. it was much harder for them to see the need to leave, as they had a vvery different experience. Their father was very opposed, they were one of a very large family and that balanced out the nuttiness they received...

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  they played chess ! the horror of it

  could participate in sports

  could have 'worldly" friends (what a disgraceful expression that is)

  could eat Christmas cake, just not on the "right" day...

  When I was telling them off the reality of the hardcore jw life, they honestly didnt believe it, being able to show them on here really made a difference.

  Their family is a great example of people who dont attend, know almost nothing about the Jw practices, but are convinced it's the truth.....
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  Hi Guys, I'm new here...

  by Mikado in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  been lurking for years, but couldn't log on.

  for some reason, my email spam filter is inaccessable, and ended up having to open another account, simply to become a member... wonder how many others have had a similar problem.. its been an eye opener reading everyones life experiences, often so similar.. i was almost a born in, with a hardcore family.

  abusive stepfather who was one of the original jws in the area, so much so, that it was called the xxxxx family religion.... been out for 25 years, am glad every day for that!!.

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  quells attack,

  No, my stepfathers death was such a liberation. You know all the talk of elders covering up child abuse? he was one of them, and truly but sadly a very unpleasant person..
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  Hi Guys, I'm new here...

  by Mikado in

  1. jw
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  been lurking for years, but couldn't log on.

  for some reason, my email spam filter is inaccessable, and ended up having to open another account, simply to become a member... wonder how many others have had a similar problem.. its been an eye opener reading everyones life experiences, often so similar.. i was almost a born in, with a hardcore family.

  abusive stepfather who was one of the original jws in the area, so much so, that it was called the xxxxx family religion.... been out for 25 years, am glad every day for that!!.

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  had lots of counselling. I suspect its a too deeply learnt response...
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  Hi Guys, I'm new here...

  by Mikado in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  been lurking for years, but couldn't log on.

  for some reason, my email spam filter is inaccessable, and ended up having to open another account, simply to become a member... wonder how many others have had a similar problem.. its been an eye opener reading everyones life experiences, often so similar.. i was almost a born in, with a hardcore family.

  abusive stepfather who was one of the original jws in the area, so much so, that it was called the xxxxx family religion.... been out for 25 years, am glad every day for that!!.

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  Thanks guys for such a wonderful welcome..

  I'm married, with no kids, to a thankfully, non spiritually sound JW.

  My mother amazingly will speak to me, as I was carefull to fade(long before I heard of anyone else doing so), and having left the area was easier to do it. I wouldn't have been able to so so otherwise.

  However, she is both so hard line, and basicly nuts, that I have chose not to have contact, basicly for the sake of my peace of mind.

  fortunatly my step father died twenty odd years ago

  Funnily enough, I suspect that I may never be totally 'over' the damage that JW do to you. I saw some jws on a literature stand a week or so ago, and it made me feel physically ill... how many of you still have that gut response?
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  Are we all actually "bad / evil / immoral" after leaving the faith?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  so recently there have been several posts with references to talks and articles that imply the following:.

  most of those who learn ttatt or fade from the "truth", are actually practicers of bad things, eg immorality, hence that is why 'we' now find fault with the org?.

  i find this so offensive that they imply such.

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  Jeffry! you can only search for their version of truth, not any other version of it...

  Funny how happy they are living in a black and white world, where reality is far from that.
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  Hi Guys, I'm new here...

  by Mikado in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  been lurking for years, but couldn't log on.

  for some reason, my email spam filter is inaccessable, and ended up having to open another account, simply to become a member... wonder how many others have had a similar problem.. its been an eye opener reading everyones life experiences, often so similar.. i was almost a born in, with a hardcore family.

  abusive stepfather who was one of the original jws in the area, so much so, that it was called the xxxxx family religion.... been out for 25 years, am glad every day for that!!.

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  Mikado

  Been lurking for years, but couldn't log on. For some reason, my email spam filter is inaccessable, and ended up having to open another account, simply to become a member... wonder how many others have had a similar problem.

  Its been an eye opener reading everyones life experiences, often so similar.

  I was almost a born in, with a hardcore family. Abusive stepfather who was one of the original JWs in the area, so much so, that it was called the XXXXX family religion...

  Been out for 25 years, am glad every day for that!!

  So glad to be able to post !!!!