Posts by HowTheBibleWasCreated

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The Secret is out....but nobody cares

by MrTheocratic in

i've been looking on this site for some time but never posted.

i'll give a little about myself, but not too much.

i'm a ex-bethelite ( brooklyn )and currently serving as an elder (10 years) (thinking about stepping down) on the service committee.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

The facts are that many JW elders know all this... but because most are 60+ and have nowhere to go... well they do it anyway...

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Beads and Tight Jeans APPROVED Service Attire For a Brother?

by sparky1 in

many, many, many posters here have wondered what happened to the religion that they were raised in or baptized into 20 or more years ago.

i just got the shock of my life on jw(dot) org.tv!

there is a video testimonial of an american indian witness that was inactive for many years and has now begun to preach again.

People of different cultures wear what is normal for them. This is not rebranding. In Africa the men witness and give talks in what looks like dresses to westerners. In the Philippines men wear silk shirts and no tie. In Nordic countries of Europe beards are common with elders.

Its not really rebranding just culture.

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I saw and heard something in a Kingdom hall I thought I would never witness!

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

when i was a kid i would hear religious songs on tv and start sining them... not knowing they were church songs... one day i started singing the hallelujah song (not sure the exact name of the song) my father quickly gave me a hard slap on the mouth and said if i ever sang that song again he would take his belt off and beat my butt until it was red!.

well fast forward 30 years..... the public speaker was missing today and so tv.jw>org to the rescue.... instead they decided to play the new video about the last hundred years since 1914.. instantly the hall was filled with the exact same song i was punished for!

yes a church song filled the hall for almost 5 minutes as we watch br.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

When I was a kid I would hear religious songs on TV and start sining them... not knowing they were church songs... One day I started singing the Hallelujah song (Not sure the exact name of the song) My father quickly gave me a hard slap on the mouth and said if I ever sang that song again he would take his belt off and beat my butt until it was red!

Well fast forward 30 years....

The public speaker was missing today and so TV.JW>ORG to the rescue.... Instead they decided to play the new video about the last hundred years since 1914.

Instantly the hall was filled with THE EXACT SAME SONG I WAS PUNISHED FOR! Yes a church song filled the hall for almost 5 minutes as we watch Br. Rusell on the screen. What was this????

One young brother started humming it.in front of me... His parents didn't scold him because... this was from the WT....

I'm an atheist and only go for family reasons but... this is hilarious.

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If The Witnesses Try To Get You Back To Jehovah...How Will You Respond!

by minimus in

jw
friends

i am most curious.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

I'm still in for family reasons but my response when that day comes will be:

"The Shashu god?" This would kill them.

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Removal of Tetragrammaton from Early Greek Manuscripts

by jhine in

a while ago i posted on another thread that i had been told by some witnesses that the tetragrammaton had been in the original christian greek scriptures but had been removed when apostacy came into the church .

i did not know where this came from at the time .however while looking something else up i came across this .as i could not find the original thread i have started a new one .here is a quote from nwt reference edition 1984 :-.

" matthew made more than a hundred quotations from the inspired hebrew scriptures.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

There are NO versions of Matthew with the Tetragrammation in it (Except for more modern Hebrew translations)

This post is a copy from the back of the 1984 Referance Bible NWT.

None of the Gospels likely had the name of YHWH in them. All were Greek. Even John which comes for an early Jewish Messianic cult is in Greek.

The CUSTOM of the time is actually after 70CE was to not use the name YHWH i the Greek texts. Version of the LXX after this time don't use it and neither does the NT. The only exception of Revelation which contains a quote for Ps 104:35 4 times in chapter 19 BUT this this is in Greek charecters as the word Halleiujah

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The borrowed magic of the memorial

by Half banana in

myth comes from myth and ritual comes from ritual.

myth and ritual are borrowed in the way fire is borrowed to light another flame.

john 6:53 says that whoever does not eat (jesus) body and drink his blood will have no life in him.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

The last supper or lords evening meal is NOT based on John 6. John is Jewish-Messianic Savior Gospel.... 1 Corinthinas 11 which introduces the Bread & Wine cerimony makes it clear that this is a meal a visonary Paul and Jesus share BASED on normal church meals... the two are NOT related... Futher although the Jesus stories draws on many pagan ideas... It was started by a text called the Ascesion of Isaiah.... A Jewish-Savior story based itself on Plato's idea of the Logos...

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The plague, livestock. Question

by James Mixon in

sorry if this have been covered.

exodus 9;6-7 and exodus 9:19-25.. livestock killed twice by god??

contradiction?

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Two different authors... Exodus is a patchwork of stories...

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Ever Think About This One? Another Bible Contradiction

by freemindfade in

8you must not make for yourself a carved image+ or a form* like anything that is in the heavens above or on the earth below or in the waters under the earth.-deuteronomy 5:8. .

18 you are to make two cherubs of gold; you will make them of hammered work on the two ends of the cover.+ 19 make the cherubs on the two ends, one cherub on each end of the cover.

20 the cherubs are to spread out their two wings upward, overshadowing the cover with their wings,+ and they will face each other.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Two diferent authors... i see no problem..

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How many of you still believe in God or are still Christians?

by JWCartPusher in

hello, i asked a new but old friend how many people are still christians after leaving the watchtower's mind control agency, for statistical purposes do you mind if i do a survey and see how many of you are believers?.

please don't post if your not a believer out of respect for this poll, we need to sharpen each other's sword and help build each other up and meet new friends over the internet with faith in god or some other force of the universe.

i asked another person how we can still manage our faith after getting burned by the high group mind control, he had a few ideas but he's not really involved with god because of how life burned him.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Since other athiests commented here I will too..

I started as a real believer in JW religion and Jehovah. Once the Documentary Hypothsis was put to me in a book and the evidence of Babylonian text word per word the same as Genesis I went to see if evolution could be true when i found 100% proof I was done with belief... (See my other posts)

I was Agnostic as I know the god of the bible was false but hey all is possible... as the years have passed though I would say seeing the giraffe dissected and Prof. Dawkins showing us the stupidious arrangement finished my agnosticism... I'm an atheist.

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What would happen if life was found elsewhere?

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

see jws have said time and again jesus died once for all time... a quote from hebrews.

okay rule out humn-like aliens what about animals plants and microbes... i once had a hot fight with an elder when i still believed that here was no reason to doubt alien animals etc.

yet not based on any wt article witnesses reject this often.. lets suppose say in a month microbes are found on ceres (i doubt it will happen but let's roll with it) they are living as much as our cells are and reporduce... okay what would mother say in the magazines when millions of jehovah's witnesses demand to know why jehovah created microbes on a dwarf planet?.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

See JWs have said time and again Jesus died once for all time... A quote from Hebrews.

Okay rule out humn-like aliens what about animals plants and microbes... I once had a hot fight with an elder when I still believed that here was no reason to doubt alien animals etc. Yet NOT based on any WT article witnesses reject this often.

Lets suppose say in a month microbes are found on Ceres (I doubt it will happen but let's roll with it) They are living as much as our cells are and reporduce... okay what would MOTHER say in the magazines when millions of Jehovah's Witnesses demand to know why Jehovah created microbes on a dwarf planet?

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