Posts by HowTheBibleWasCreated

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Something I need to clear up about the bible - It is not a BRONZE AGE BOOK!

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

let's be technical.

the bronze age ended in 1200 bce in devoloped places and later ... aroun 900-800 in other places.

indeed read 1 samuel 13's ending.. the bible was produced not one tiny bit in the bronze age.

Something I need to clear up about the bible - It is not a BRONZE AGE BOOK!

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

let's be technical.

the bronze age ended in 1200 bce in devoloped places and later ... aroun 900-800 in other places.

indeed read 1 samuel 13's ending.. the bible was produced not one tiny bit in the bronze age.

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And i'm pissed off.

Many vocal atheist (I admit i am on this board) show holes in Christian reasonings quickly. Sadly this is a such a common lie that i've seen Bill Maher use it on TV.

The Bible being a bronze age book is actually something Christians claim. Moses wrote this thing. Note true and I can disprove that with one word:

Goshen.... an Egyptian Provance from 671-400BCE or so.... <<< Bronze age?....Christians have NO response to that!

That people who claim they have studied and found out the bible is not god's words AND STILL CALL IT A BRONZE AGE BOOK are just as bad in ways.

The book is IRON AGE down through to the second century CE

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Something I need to clear up about the bible - It is not a BRONZE AGE BOOK!

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

let's be technical.

the bronze age ended in 1200 bce in devoloped places and later ... aroun 900-800 in other places.

indeed read 1 samuel 13's ending.. the bible was produced not one tiny bit in the bronze age.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Let's be technical. The Bronze age ended in 1200 BCE in devoloped places and later ... aroun 900-800 in other places. Indeed read 1 Samuel 13's ending.

The Bible was produced NOT ONE TINY BIT in the bronze age. (The only parts that might date then is Ps 29.... which is heavely revised and the Song of the Sea.

The rest is :

IRON AGE!

Get it right.

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Question for Atheists.. Did you gain a Greater Sense of Morality and Happiness?

by objectivetruth in

i've heard some view points that state, atheists are generally more moral & caring for fellow humans, than are theists.. i'd like to hear some personal stories of life changes and quality of life after you became atheist.

i have a simple theory that may explain this.. i'll explain my theory if you'd like, after a few responses, as i really am interested in the personal changes that you experienced.. thank you very much, and i look forward to your stories..

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Can a person follow the sermon on the mount and still be a an athiest... Yes. (Athiests for Jesus comes to mind)

Can a person follow the ten commandments and be an atheist? NO No No. The first 4 laws are about the deity.

Without religious texts would we all be athiests? Of course not! Most of the religions in this world (by numbers of religions, not followers) have little to any written text and are eith spritist or Henotheistic. (Some are montheist)

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Yes you will inherit a Land flowing with Milk & Honey, but did i forget to mention about Leprosy?

by Quarterback in

this week's bible highlights, as well as last week indicated that the promise land wasn't so fortunate as thought.

this week it mentions premature balding.

if you were balding prematurely, you had to see the priests.

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The leprosy mentioned apply to many skin conditions. For instance I have eczema. Many people do. But in israel I would be unclean... for something that is not contagious.

Futher because of eczema I shave my head (That plus it feels good) I guess that partis clean... it is baldness...

Need to check to warp and the woofs of my clothes for mildew lol

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Question for Atheists.. Did you gain a Greater Sense of Morality and Happiness?

by objectivetruth in

i've heard some view points that state, atheists are generally more moral & caring for fellow humans, than are theists.. i'd like to hear some personal stories of life changes and quality of life after you became atheist.

i have a simple theory that may explain this.. i'll explain my theory if you'd like, after a few responses, as i really am interested in the personal changes that you experienced.. thank you very much, and i look forward to your stories..

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Atheists treat others well becaue they want to and it's logical.

Theists treat others well because an invisable man is watching their every move and will punish them if they slip

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Solomon's Temple was there one??

by Crazyguy in

its interesting to find out that there is no evidence of king david or his son solomon.

what about this amazing temple that solomon supposedly built??

there is no arcylogical evidence that it ever excisted either.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Putting Dacid and Solomon aside (Who I will be dealing with in futher chapters of my book on here) the first temple I am 90% sure existed. However:

1. Solomon didn't build it. (He likely didn't exist)

2. 2 Kings 12 describes a 'refit' of the temple. I think this is when the Yahweh temple was built in Jerusalem. There were temples to other gods too.

3. Dueteronomy 12-26 is a law code from the north that was revised and used for Josiah's reforms. It is 100% likely a temple existed then for Yahweh.

4. There were other temples for Yahweh. (Bethel, Shiloh etc)

5. The book of Ezra is mosly from the 200s BCE and can't be relied on.

I do however think the second temple is the description found in 1 Kings 6,7.

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How The Bible Was Invented 6. Israel Fights Back and becomes a Kingdom (925-870BCE)

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

was buried in tirzah; and elah his son reigned.

judah, elah the son of baasha began to reign.

they written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of israel?.

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I haven't read that yet. The book is for every bible believer however as I know more about JWs I might tend to hint sometimes.

I already addressed the LXX and the MT in the last chapter. (As well as the dead sea scrolls.) I never dealt with the Samaritian Pentatuch since it wasn't rlevent for 1 Kings. As for canons I might deal with that but this is a process that took place for Jews in the secod century CE and Christians in the 4th. Kind of early in the book lol.

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How The Bible Was Invented 6. Israel Fights Back and becomes a Kingdom (925-870BCE)

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

was buried in tirzah; and elah his son reigned.

judah, elah the son of baasha began to reign.

they written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of israel?.

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Doug as I am showing they were Canaanite hill dwellers by as archeology shows from Omri's time onwards Israel was a Kingdom. As for Solon and David many will note I missed them. I do not believe they are historical and will deal with why I think that soon.

1 Kings is a compilation of Israelite texts from Omri's house(Later jehu's) and later Judean propoganda (Deuteronimits).... I need to seperate them but sometimes the line is hard. That is why as I am posting here drafts.

(Moses will be dealt with later.)

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How The Bible Was Invented 6. Israel Fights Back and becomes a Kingdom (925-870BCE)

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

was buried in tirzah; and elah his son reigned.

judah, elah the son of baasha began to reign.

they written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of israel?.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Jeroboam I name was unlikely to be his name. More likely it is that Jeroboam the second living 200 years later made the tradition of the first king being Jeroboam since Jeroboam II was probably one of the best kings Israel had later.

Although the text of 1 Kings is muh later at this point it likely is 50% accurate. Thus we will work with what it says.

14:1At that time Abijah the son of Jeroboam
fell sick.....
14:18All Israel
buried him, and mourned for him,...
...14:20The days which Jeroboam reigned were
two and twenty years: and he slept with his
fathers, and Nadab his son reigned in his place....
...15:25Nadab the son of Jeroboam began to reign
over Israel in the second year of Asa king of
Judah; and he reigned over Israel two years.
15:26He did that which was evil in the sight of
Yahweh, and walked in the way of his father,
and in his sin with which he made Israel to
sin.

At this point most will note I am only picking out things that are likely historical.

15:27Baasha the son of Ahijah, of the house
of Issachar, conspired against him; and Baasha
struck him at Gibbethon, which belonged to
the Philistines; for Nadab and all Israel were
laying siege to Gibbethon.
So what?
The problem is the name of the city is very much a play on Saul's city. Think about Saul as you read the next few lines.
15:29It happened
that, as soon as he was king, he struck all the
house of Jeroboam: he didn’t leave to Jeroboam
any who breathed, until he had destroyed
him; ......
..... 15:31Now
the rest of the acts of Nadab, and all that he did,
aren’t they written in the book of the chronicles
of the kings of Israel? ...

....15:33In the third year of Asa king of
Judah, Baasha the son of Ahijah began to reign
over all Israel in Tirzah for twenty-four years.
15:34He did that which was evil in the sight of
Yahweh, and walked in the way of Jeroboam,
and in his sin with which he made Israel to sin.....

16:5Now the rest of the acts of Baasha, and
what he did, and his might aren’t they written
in the book of the chronicles of the kings of
Israel? 16:6Baasha slept with his fathers, and
was buried in Tirzah; and Elah his son reigned
in his place.
Don't be confused. I removed 80% of later lines.
16:8In the twenty-sixth year of Asa king of
Judah, Elah the son of Baasha began to reign
over Israel in Tirzah for two years. 16:9His
servant Zimri, captain of half his chariots,
conspired against him. Now he was in Tirzah,
drinking himself drunk in the house of Arza,
whowas over the household in Tirzah: 16:10and
Zimri went in and struck him, and killed
him, in the twenty-seventh year of Asa king
of Judah, and reigned in his place. 16:11It
happened, when he began to reign, as soon
as he sat on his throne, that he struck all the
house of Baasha: he didn’t leave him a single
one who urinates on a wall,h neither of his
relatives, nor of his friends. 16:12Thus Zimri
destroyed all the house of Baasha, according to
the word of Yahweh, which he spoke against
Baasha by Jehu the prophet, 16:13for all the sins
of Baasha, and the sins of Elah his son, which
they sinned, and with which they made Israel
to sin, to provoke Yahweh, the God of Israel,
to anger with their vanities. 16:14Now the rest
of the acts of Elah, and all that he did, aren’t
they written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of Israel?

16:15In the twenty-seventh
year of Asa king of Judah, Zimri reigned
seven days in Tirzah. Now the people were
encamped against Gibbethon, which belonged
to the Philistines. 16:16The people who were
encamped heard say, Zimri has conspired, and
has also struck the king: therefore all Israel
made Omri, the captain of the army, king over
Israel that day in the camp. 16:17Omri went
up from Gibbethon, and all Israel with him,
and they besieged Tirzah. 16:18It happened,
when Zimri saw that the city was taken, that
he went into the castle of the king’s house, and
burnt the king’s house over him with fire, and
died, 16:19for his sins which he sinned in doing
that which was evil in the sight of Yahweh, in
walking in the way of Jeroboam, and in his sin
which he did, to make Israel to sin. 16:20Now
the rest of the acts of Zimri, and his treason
that he committed, aren’t they written in the
book of the chronicles of the kings of Israel?

Why does Zimri's death story sound like Saul? Likely because although Saul MIGHT have been a previous rular the stories were remember from later.

What is more likely the HINGE of the Hebrew bible is next:
16:21Then were the people of Israel divided into
two parts: half of the people followed Tibni
the son of Ginath, to make him king; and
half followed Omri. 16:22But the people who
followed Omri prevailed against the people
who followed Tibni the son of Ginath: so Tibni
died, and Omri reigned. 16:23In the thirty-first
year of Asa king of Judah, Omri began to reign
over Israel for twelve years. He reigned six
years in Tirzah. 16:24He bought the hill Samaria
of Shemer for two talents of silver; and he built
on the hill, and called the name of the city
which he built, after the name of Shemer, the
owner of the hill, Samaria

This is a known historical fact from archeology. Omri was indeed a great rular who made Isreal a Kingdom.

.16:27Nowthe rest of theacts of Omri which he did, and

his might that he showed, aren’t they written
in the book of the chronicles of the kings of
Israel? 16:28So Omri slept with his fathers,
and was buried in Samaria; and Ahab his son
reigned in his place.

Before we deal with Ahab some Pslams were composed at this time.