So far as Ive been told in ther 80s and 90s JW always taught Jesus was in Genesis 18, 32, (As 'the angel representing Jehovah and fighting Jacob. Exodus 3, 23 (As the angel in the bush and the one whsose name Jehovah was in. Numbers 22 was speculated as to wether Jesus was the one stopping Balaam. Joshua 5 was Jesus in every occurance I remember when this was talked about. Judges 6 and 13 were speculated but never confirmed as far as I know. I do know an elder once said that Jesus was the angel in Hezkiahs time who killed 185000 Assyrians.
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Jesus in the old testament
by Steel inabout two years ago i was challenged by a householder to do the research on the subject.
of course thinking it was all bunk i decided to take a look off the reservation.
much to my surprise a lot of started to make sense and i started to understand the connections between the old and new testament .
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Beards
by HowTheBibleWasCreated ini have a beard.
i spend a month on vacation with no worry from the congregation overseas of course.
i grew a full beard now and with glasses i finally have posted my picture on facebook og me... next to half life 2 cover showing i look like gordan freeman lol.
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Crazyguy: I go for the sake of my wife. The elders are still trying to find 'answers to my questions'.
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Beards
by HowTheBibleWasCreated ini have a beard.
i spend a month on vacation with no worry from the congregation overseas of course.
i grew a full beard now and with glasses i finally have posted my picture on facebook og me... next to half life 2 cover showing i look like gordan freeman lol.
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I'm still being chased by the school overseer for bible readings so no problem after last weeks wt. ( I only attend maybe 1/3 meetings. Reported no time last month by putting 0 on the time report. Another guy with a recent beard gave a reading last week.
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WT “Study” for 11th Sept 2016 – “Why Must We ‘Keep on the Watch’”?
by Nicholaus Kopernicus ini was really puzzled when i opened this edition of the wt magazine at the above “study”.
what on earth has this picture at the top of page 13 got to do with christian watchfulness?
i wasn’t making a connection at all.
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Did anyone notice the change in frowning on beards is over... a wt study article is opening it up in december (thats how elders here have already commented amoung themselves) and the is picture confirms... notice the black guy in the foreground
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Evolution Gap - Where's the Fur?
by shadow inevolution paints human ancestors covered with fur.
fur has several benefits as stated by britannica "the pelts of fur-bearing animals are called true furs when they consist of two elements: a dense undercoat, called ground hair, and longer hairs, extending beyond that layer, called guard hair.
the principal function of ground hair is to maintain the animal’s body temperature; that of guard hair is to protect the underlying fur and skin and to shed rain or snow.".
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It's called hair... look at your arms, legs, head etc.
Humans ancestors likely went through a near aquatic phase about 2-3 million years ago.
We have streamlined hair, descended lyrax, voluntary breathing, extra fat etc
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The Governing Body vs. Jesus Christ
by HowTheBibleWasCreated ini have stated an will restate my views and understanding of ex jws.... it's simple:.
follow you reason... where does facts/science/ lead you.
in the 80/90-/00s i thought jw had the truth based on science from the blue book,,,.
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Crazyguy:
A few months ago I went to an elder I knew well and told him: 'I have doubts.."
I explained things from an agnostic perspective that evolution explains our origins will certainty and I could find no proof for the bible's claims.
He of course was disturbed but said when a more knowledgeable elder could be find they would help restore my faith.... so far none have... The only thing he has suggested is to watch JW broadcasting of 'Origins of Life'... I have.... I find those 'scientists' disturbing ....
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The Governing Body vs. Jesus Christ
by HowTheBibleWasCreated ini have stated an will restate my views and understanding of ex jws.... it's simple:.
follow you reason... where does facts/science/ lead you.
in the 80/90-/00s i thought jw had the truth based on science from the blue book,,,.
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I have stated an will restate my views and understanding of ex JWs...
It's Simple:
FOLLOW YOU REASON... WHERE DOES FACTS/SCIENCE/ LEAD YOU
In the 80/90-/00s I thought JW had the truth based on science from the blue book,,,
BUT WE KNOW IT WAS FABRICATED AND QUOTE MINED... ONCE I FOUND OUT WHATEVER HORRIFIC CONCLUSIONS I FOUND OUT IT WAS FACTUAL NOT FABRICATED!
Many JWS like to leave the GB to follow Jesus.. OMG How about this YOU ARE THE PROBLEM!!!
& dudes or one dude that never existed... HMMM... <<< Stop this NOW and stop JW elders assuming that you have joined a false religion...
My elders know I'm agnostic (atheist but they dont know) they ignore me... But no YOU>>> follow WEEZUS .. I will never respect you
This is not a hate post but an awakening post
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How do we know JWs are wrong and how do we convince others JWs are wrong: logic versus persuasion
by slimboyfat inwe like to think we are logical and have good reasons for for our beliefs.
no more so than when it comes to our reasons for rejecting the truth claims of jws.
we reject their version of history, such as the date of the fall of jerusalem, because it doesn't agree with the historical evidence.
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WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE.. COFY GAVE YOU THE ANSWER IN THE FIRST PAGE ....
THERE IS NO GOD EVOLUTION IS TRUE AND YOU ARE AMAZING... BUT
THE WT WILL NEVER TELL YOU THAT.. WAKE UP FOOLS..
THE ONLY WAY TO CONVINCE JWS THAT THEY ARE WRONG IS THROUGH SCIENCE USING THE OPPOSITE OF THE BLUE BOOK... EX ERVS... EX CHROMOSOME 2.... EX.... TESTICLES... ECT
Yes I meant to use caps...
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The problem of sex (or why I'm not an atheist)
by EdenOne inas i write this under the shadow of the walls of saint jorge's castle in lisbon, two very bored jws are standing just five metres away from me with a literature cart .... in my journey away from jwism i accepted evolution as a fact.
i also became anti-religion, agnostic and apatheist.
and, while i lean towards the persuasion of the atheist arguments, there are a few reasons that make it difficult for me to completely discard the notion of an intelligent origin of life.
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Eden... let me help you.... Nothing is more horrific to me then an ex JW that chooses Christianity... in my sight they have traded 7 existing men for one guy that might not have lived ,,, I mean that is sick
You have followed evidence much as I have but have not the same way.. when I saw evolution was true I also took an agnostic approach... I felt it reasonable.... However over time I learned it wasn't ...
Thus 2 years ago I became an atheist.... However that being said does not mean i;'m not spiritual... i need to understand the universe same as you... science will provide and answer even if not in our lifetime...
No asexual reproduction stems from eucriotic cells and is so far in the past it is not worth arguing about
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This Music Video Needs to be Spread
by HowTheBibleWasCreated inin 97 i was 19 and still at home.
i was a jw to the core then believing the religion because it was presented as scientifically accurate.
this song was played on vancouver radio stations... i heard of it and saw it on cable tv and laughed thinking it was a bad example of jws.
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In 97 I was 19 and still at home. I was a JW to the core then believing the religion because it was presented as scientifically accurate. This song was played on Vancouver radio stations... I heard of it and saw it on cable tv and laughed thinking it was a bad example of JWs. In reality..... 19 years later>>>
I'm 38 and I think this video is bang on and quite humorous.. the kid gets his revenge.
This song is Celtic Rock (Im more country guy but like celtic rock) but the message is clear that JW kids are being abused NOT BY COURTS IN CHILD ABUSE... AS MUCH AS PREACHING...