viere. I will explain that in detail in two days I'm on vacation until Tuesday lol..
HowTheBibleWasCreated
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Genesis 18:27
by JPG123 inin genesis 18:27 it says:.
but abraham again responded: “please, here i have presumed to speak to jehovah, whereas i am dust and ashes.. but when referencing the interlinear translation of the old testament, it clearly uses the hebrew word “adonai” instead of “yahweh” in this verse.
was abraham referring to god as “lord” in this verse?.
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Genesis 18:27
by JPG123 inin genesis 18:27 it says:.
but abraham again responded: “please, here i have presumed to speak to jehovah, whereas i am dust and ashes.. but when referencing the interlinear translation of the old testament, it clearly uses the hebrew word “adonai” instead of “yahweh” in this verse.
was abraham referring to god as “lord” in this verse?.
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Serious bible students questions about the bible
by TTWSYF inmany jws (and others) are serious about their biblical studies, but don't ask the right questions.
in basic journalism one learns to ask the right questions which in my years here, i've never hear asked.. who, what, where, by what help, by whose help, why, how and when.
these are all basic questions when researching anything that you want to write an article or paper on what ever related subject.. who wrote/created the bible?.
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Disillusioned JW
Read Plato's Laws:
1. Ideal society is 12 tribes
2. Set a foundation story of conquest or colonization
3. Gives laws as if they come from a divine being (Plato was a monotheist)
The creation story in Genesis 2 is paralleled in Symposium and Timaeus.
As for Iliad David's story is paralleled closely. Note the story in 1 Samuel 17 with Goliath.
The stories of Noah's drunkenness' and the three angels visiting abraham are taken right out of Baucis and Philemon.
As for Jephthah and his daughter and the closely related Abraham and Isaac binding story. These are taken from Agamemnon and Iphigeneia
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Serious bible students questions about the bible
by TTWSYF inmany jws (and others) are serious about their biblical studies, but don't ask the right questions.
in basic journalism one learns to ask the right questions which in my years here, i've never hear asked.. who, what, where, by what help, by whose help, why, how and when.
these are all basic questions when researching anything that you want to write an article or paper on what ever related subject.. who wrote/created the bible?.
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Overated I actually take offense at that as an atheist. I think the bible writers were using plato and other works etc and were learned priests not simple illiterate sheep herders. They weren't on drugs the stories they told are based on the same stories in Iliad etc. lol You wouldn't take offense at the bible if you saw the same material in greek or Babylonian works
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Serious bible students questions about the bible
by TTWSYF inmany jws (and others) are serious about their biblical studies, but don't ask the right questions.
in basic journalism one learns to ask the right questions which in my years here, i've never hear asked.. who, what, where, by what help, by whose help, why, how and when.
these are all basic questions when researching anything that you want to write an article or paper on what ever related subject.. who wrote/created the bible?.
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Let me answer some of these questions:
Who wrote/created the bible? Priests, rulers, philosophers with the OT being written in the 3rd and 2nd centuries BCE and the NT mostly in the second century CE
What is the bible? A vast collection of literature. whose canon is still undecided.
Why are there only 66 books in the bible (why not more or less)? The Catholics have more the Ethiopian Orthodox have alot more. The Jewish bibles have alot less.,
How were the scriptures used in Christ Jesus's time? I doubt he existed. However in the 30s most of the OT was written (I doubt Esther was until the 50s,60s) and according to Josephus there were four different Jewish religions ranging from the Pharisees who were Zoroastrian Jews, The Sadducees who were Hellenistic Jews and the Essenes who were Gnostic Jews. The fourth group was simply Jewish Terrorists attacking Romans on the streets (Zealots)
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Which English Translations of the Bible are you Favorites, and Why?
by Disillusioned JW inwhich english translations of the bible are you favorites, and why?
my favorites include the (english) revised version bible (of 1881-1885) and its apocrypha (of 1898), the american revised version bible (of 1898, it close to the american standard version), the american standard version bible (of 1901), the new american standard bible - updated edition, the new revised standard version bible with the apocrypha, the complete bible: an american translation (it includes the apocrypha), and the twentieth century new testament.
i also use others beside those.. they are my favorites because i consider them to be highly accurate, and also they are either very literal (but not so literal as to be hard to understand) or they use functional equivalence.
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I have a few.
1. The NASB for literal reading.
2. The WEB for being copyright free, modern English, and using Yahweh.
3. The NWT 1984 with references for the references plus my familiarity with the text.
4. The JPS 1985 Study bible for the OT
5. The RSV often for the NT.
Edit: for the Apocrypha I use the Oxford Study Bible Revised English Edition.
And finally, I would hold the KJV for it's literary qualities.
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What are your personal reasons for hating the Jehovah's Witnesses religion ?
by Rocketman123 infirst thing comes to mind is that this organization through its leaders are not witnessing the true and honest version of the gospel teachings of jesus christ .. they are subjectively teaching/preaching a tainted version made up by the top controlling men of the organization, which i'm sure is connected to the proliferation and distribution of literature which these men publish themselves.
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when jesus said that no one knows of the time not even he, he didn't say a select few will know .. the other thing that bothers me is this organization promotes human ignorance on many levels, admonishing education or knowledge that mankind needs for its very survival... there are many other religious organizations that do this as well but the jws is just one of these organizations.
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Childhood indoctrination (higher education too) Suppression of science, Shunning, Blolod etc.
Having watched all of Friday's convention I would add lies lies lies about science.
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The Emphasized Bible - Now included in WT LIbrary
by Wonderment inthe emphasized bible (rotherham) is now included in the wt library under "other bibles.".
therefore it joins kit, kjv, asv, & the bible in living english in such group.. any thoughts?.
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I think they published this version in the past. The fact that it includes the divine name as Yahweh is a plus but it still uses old language.. a minus.
I glanced through it. It is really almost the same as the bible in living English I suspect it will be on JW library app soon under translations. As for Johannes Greber sure I could see that people make a big thing out of his religious views but who cares. The WT did not produce the KJV, ASV, etc. Who cares what he believed. if the translation is within acceptable standards it's fine., Even the NWT fits nowadays in modern critical biblical study.
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Converted Greek Philosopher Explains Christianity in 125 AD
by Sea Breeze ini ran across a pretty early treatise.
we were all taught that "real" christianity was lost to history and was only restored once russell and then rutherford restored it so that the wt could be appointed as god's "mouthpiece".
but, aristides wrote to the emperor hadrian and gave a pretty good synopsis of core christian belief in 125 ad.
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Ignatius letters are late and fake.
As for the original post. The gospel I would say is the gospel of peter, thomas or marcion. The expression 'clothed himself in flesh' matches peter best
I would say however that you are right Jesus was originally thought of as divine by SOME CHRISTIANS. Others saw him as cosmic (Hebrews, Revelation) or an angel like being. (Ascension of Isaiah)
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God vs ET`s ,why is one more probable than the other ?
by smiddy3 inbillions of people around the world beleive in a god of some sort or other who exerts some power or influence to some degree or other in lifes affairs .. i don`t think there would be anywhere near that figure that would entertain the possability of extra terrestial life elsewhere in the universe.. and i find that curious .. the ancients didn`t know that their were other humans on other continents on this planet until they ventured out and found them .. we live somewhere in the milky way galaxy with millions of suns and planets that orbit them.. our galaxy is only one of trillions if not zillions of galaxys in the known universe.. look at the diversity of life on just this one planet earth ,what possabilitys could exist elsewhere ?
on alien worastronomers can use the hubble space telescope to view galaxies near the edge of the observable universe (the region of space from which light has had a chance to reach us within the last 13.77 billion years).
by examining a very tiny portion of the sky, counting up the number of visible galaxies in the universe in that specific region, and then multiplying that number to account for all the regions of the sky, astronomers estimate the number of galaxies in the universe.
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Life evolves from the bottom up not the top down. I think you can understand from that one sentence the ideas of gods and aliens are two different sides. One is probable the other is improbable.