Posts by OneEyedJoe

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How much do you think GB enjoy their lives?

by elbib in

many who have watched the gb know that they seem to be desperate to be admired, to be looked up to…….

now the question arises—do they really enjoy their lives?

does their superiority complex make them feel good?.

OneEyedJoe

They have lives that are enjoyable, but I suspect that they don't particularly enjoy it. I think they truly believe the BS they're selling, and that must be incredibly frustrating. The world just won't quite seem to bend to fit their view and they are therefore constantly in conflict with reality. That probably doesn't make for a good time

That said, if they really don't care and it's all about business for them, then I'm sure at least some of them enjoy it. They don't all seem to be quite as full of themselves as AMIII, so I'm not sure I could say that they're all "in love with themselves." If they can put aside the fact that their worldview doesn't mesh with reality and just enjoy having all their needs taken care of and being adored by millions, then they should be having a pretty good time.

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Child Abuse In This Weeks Meeting Part

by thedepressedsoul in

i was sitting at the meeting this week and the "apply yourself to the field ministry" part started.

it was the first part under, "the initial call".

they read from the "good news" brochure and ask a question on it.

OneEyedJoe

Is there a Q/A part in there? Someone should definitely mention the ARC's investigation into several religious groups that revealed that some hid over a thousand abusers from authorities. Maybe someone will get excited and do some research.

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Coordinator for the elder body

by truth doubter in

i was recently told that circit overseers must give up the position at age 70. is that true and if so, does the coordinator have to give up his position at age 70 also?

OneEyedJoe

Another thought - don't they pay for the COs medical needs? Makes sense that they'd give them the boot earlier. Than the COBE that they don't pay for.

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Why is it ok for witnesses to go to Church backed hospitals?

by stuckinarut2 in

if witnesses should "get out of babylon the great" then why is it ok to go into hospitals that have been set up, and have funding from churches?.

isnt that a little contradictory or hypocritical?.

OneEyedJoe

I actually wondered that many times. But I had a really good orthopedist at the Methodist hospital so I didn't fight it.

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Coordinator for the elder body

by truth doubter in

i was recently told that circit overseers must give up the position at age 70. is that true and if so, does the coordinator have to give up his position at age 70 also?

OneEyedJoe

Probably because they need more COBEs than COs

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Coordinator for the elder body

by truth doubter in

i was recently told that circit overseers must give up the position at age 70. is that true and if so, does the coordinator have to give up his position at age 70 also?

OneEyedJoe

yes, that's correct. COBE has to retire at 80.

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Circuit Overseer Guidelines (tg-E) October 2015

by wifibandit in

circuit overseer guidelines (tg-e) october 2015. http://bit.ly/1utgizt.

OneEyedJoe

The bit about "counterbalancing" past wrongs with a sufficiently convincing record of righteousness (listener's post) is just shocking for any organization that claims to be christian. What happened to forgive and forget? What happened to god's forgiveness making a scarlet sin as white as snow? Not here. In the JW cult you have to wait until everyone in the congregation can't remember, however hard they may try, what you did wrong. If the congregation remembers a past "sin" then you can't be an elder/MS. Shouldn't they be focusing on teaching the flock forgiveness instead of punishing a man for a sin that god has supposedly already forgiven?

Isn't it impossible for us sinful humans to "counterbalance" our sins? That's what the entirety of chistianity is based on - that we can't make up for our sins so we need jesus. This just goes to show yet again that they are nothing even close to the "true" christians they claim to be

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Is the 'growth™' still being hyped?

by punkofnice in

when i was a member of watchtower corporation, i regularly heard how it must be the true religion because of the growth™.

(phenomenal, apparently).. i wonder if they still hang onto this?

has it been boasted about at meetings recently?

OneEyedJoe

When I left a year ago they definitely still were.

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Survey of Involvement in Cults / Religious Groups : PhD Research Project

by ZAPPA-ESQUE in

jw
friends

its a short anonymous survey - perhaps you would like to contribute 5 minutes- .

via: icsa (international cultic studies association).

""i'm passing on the message below from a duke university student who is conducting a research study that has gone through the duke institutional review board.

OneEyedJoe

Done. I'd definitely be interested in the results of your research, please post back when it's completed to let us know how it goes!

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So... Are they done printing the number of partakers?

by thedepressedsoul in

during the wt study yesterday i had a confused look on my face the whole meeting.

more of a, wtf, face.

one paragraph says, "therefore,the number of partakers does not accurately indicate the number of anointed ones left on earth.".

OneEyedJoe

I'm surprised the Watchtower didn't simply fake the numbers in order to show a steady decrease.

Looking at it from the assumption that the GB are true believers, victims of victims themselves, I think they can't quite bring themselves to actually fudge the numbers directly. Every unethical and deceitful thing they do has some justification (however hollow and invalid it is) that they can use to tell themselves that they're upholding the bible's moral standards. I don't know what justification they could find for blatantly lying by changing numbers like that - it would be worse than the out of context quotes and lies of omission. Either that or they're worried too many of the higher-ups would object to it and expose them if they find out. That's the only thing I can think of to explain the many indirect ways that they've used to manipulate the numbers - 15 minute field service reports, encouraging elders to collect late reports in august, telling elders to screen who they count as a partaker, etc etc. If they were comfortable just changing the numbers, it doesn't seem like they'd go to this much effort to tweak them indirectly.