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  NEW BLOOD CARD w/ FORCED COMPLIANCE also LEGALISM

  by apocalypse in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have looked around and i don't see this covered, so i am starting a thread.. 1) the new "blood card" goes beyond being just a "blood card".. 2) a new edict concerning compliance.. pay attention to the changes.. first, the new card is termed "advance decision to refuse specified medical treatment".

  the big change with the card itself is that it includes an 'override' of your "power of attorney".

  this is huge.

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  When is this supposed to happen?

  If this pans out, I guess they're not backing away from the blood ban after all. They'd gone a while without talking about it much (though recently they did have an article in the WT study that went into it again, but that was the first thing in a while) so it seemed like they might have been trying to ease off on this embarrassing policy. I wonder if their doubling down comes from not wanting to appear to be capitulating to their critics or from the realization that having people quite literally sign away their life in loyalty to the org is a powerful tool for creating CD and controlling people.
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  Lame and werid sample presentations at the meeting

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  they used to let bro's and sis's do the sample presentation and give them the leeway to put it in their own words thereby making it more natural.

  not so anymore!

  these days the sample presentations are beamed from mother website.. they seem to have been written by someone who has no experience of how people talk in real life.

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  I think they have up on training JWs to convert people d2d a while ago. These presentations are simply there to reinforce to JWs how a householder with the right "heart condition" should respond so as to reinforce the feeling that JWs are preaching truth and have it right, in spite of the fact that no one in the territory takes to it. It also subconsciously tells them that if they're not getting results, it's because they didn't get the presentation right, not because the message is utterly insane.
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  JW Tattoos

  by bradford in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm sure there are countless opinions on whether you should get a tattoo or not.

  my personal view is that if you were to get one it should mean something.. anyone get a tattoo to remember their jw roots?

  i was thinking of getting a tetragrammaton somewhere.

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  I'm thinking of getting one that says "TTATT"
  

  I mused on that thought briefly. Decided that I probably would get tired of being asked why I got a tattoo that says it's a tattoo. Which would probably be followed by someone pointing out that they spelled tat wrong.
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  USA Today article: Majority of people in Scotland have no religion

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/04/05/scotland-majority-no-religion/82660980/.

  majority of people in scotland have no religion.

  trevor grundy, religion news service 6:47 p.m. edt april 5, 2016. .

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  They may not all become atheist right away but they're likely less dogmatic. It's also a lot easier to transition into atheism when you don't have the constant reinforcement of superstitions from going to church. Also, when you see church as a family thing or use it for social support you're less likely to reexamine your beliefs than you are if they're doing basically nothing for you.
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  New TV series: The Path (It's about family members in a fictional cult!)

  by Skedaddle in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  this looks interesting... a new tv series about a cult and they say it's a hodge podge of various cults used as a template for the show.. here's a write-up on vanity fair with interview from stephen hassan;.

  http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/03/the-path-cults.

  here's the show details on imdb;.

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  I know you're only the latest to the party, but how many threads do we really need for this show?

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4858401343406080/hulus-path-portrays-family-life-inside-cult

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5724051733479424/this-could-good-hulus-path-portrays-family-life-inside-cult

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5691566077247488/hulus-path-portrays-family-life-inside-cult
  
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  JW Tattoos

  by bradford in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm sure there are countless opinions on whether you should get a tattoo or not.

  my personal view is that if you were to get one it should mean something.. anyone get a tattoo to remember their jw roots?

  i was thinking of getting a tetragrammaton somewhere.

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  i have enough scars from my time as a JW, I don't need a tattoo to remember it. If I were to get something, though, it would be to remember my awakening and freedom, not my enslavement. I've considered getting something properly irreverent like a pentagram or something like that but I suspect that'd be misunderstood by most.
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  WT Resurrection Hope Absolutely Ridiculous As Illustrated In Their Publications

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  saw this while browsing through the good news brochure:.

  is it any wonder people aren't listening to jws anymore?

  what an absolutely delusional scene!

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  OneEyedJoe

  They drew a picture of it so it must be true!
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  How much do you think GB enjoy their lives?

  by elbib in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  many who have watched the gb know that they seem to be desperate to be admired, to be looked up to…….

  now the question arises—do they really enjoy their lives?

  does their superiority complex make them feel good?.

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  They have lives that are enjoyable, but I suspect that they don't particularly enjoy it. I think they truly believe the BS they're selling, and that must be incredibly frustrating. The world just won't quite seem to bend to fit their view and they are therefore constantly in conflict with reality. That probably doesn't make for a good time

  That said, if they really don't care and it's all about business for them, then I'm sure at least some of them enjoy it. They don't all seem to be quite as full of themselves as AMIII, so I'm not sure I could say that they're all "in love with themselves." If they can put aside the fact that their worldview doesn't mesh with reality and just enjoy having all their needs taken care of and being adored by millions, then they should be having a pretty good time.
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  Child Abuse In This Weeks Meeting Part

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was sitting at the meeting this week and the "apply yourself to the field ministry" part started.

  it was the first part under, "the initial call".

  they read from the "good news" brochure and ask a question on it.

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  Is there a Q/A part in there? Someone should definitely mention the ARC's investigation into several religious groups that revealed that some hid over a thousand abusers from authorities. Maybe someone will get excited and do some research.
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  Coordinator for the elder body

  by truth doubter in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was recently told that circit overseers must give up the position at age 70. is that true and if so, does the coordinator have to give up his position at age 70 also?

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  OneEyedJoe

  Another thought - don't they pay for the COs medical needs? Makes sense that they'd give them the boot earlier. Than the COBE that they don't pay for.