Posts by OneEyedJoe

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The WT is making a broadway musical about a cart, no joke!

by EndofMysteries in

i'm literally speechless on this.

mixed between a big wth, rofl, dumbest thing ever made, and shock that wt actually made this and is taking it seriously!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxvnn04xd3u.

OneEyedJoe

While it's obviously never that absurd, I've heard experiences like that all the time. They usually go something like this:

Andre's parents always encouraged him to do well in school. Because of this, he got good grades and excelled. In highschool, his teachers saw this and began to question him about his plans for the future. His school counselor also encouraged him to seek out <menacing voice> higher education </menacing voice> even offering to spend extra time with him in order to help Andre with his college applications. What did this faithful servant of jehovah do in this situation? Andre explained to his teachers and school counselor that he would not be applying to college and instead he would be attending a trade school that would prepare him for a career in a few months, while allowing him to take part in the most important work ever - pioneering. How did all this turn out for him? After attending trade school while pioneering, Andre was able to find a part-time job that would allow him to continue his full-time service. Interestingly, Andre relates that the pay in his new job is actually higher than he would have expected to receive after attending a 4-year college! We can see clearly from Andre's example of faithfully serving Jehovah that putting kingdom interests first truly brings Jehovah's blessing on all that we do.

Ugh it's sickening how easily that drivel just rolls effortlessly out of my brain. Maybe I shouldn't post this, I wouldn't be surprised if they use that on their next convention.

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The WT is making a broadway musical about a cart, no joke!

by EndofMysteries in

i'm literally speechless on this.

mixed between a big wth, rofl, dumbest thing ever made, and shock that wt actually made this and is taking it seriously!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxvnn04xd3u.

OneEyedJoe

I just noticed this, look at the beginning of the video. That's a BIG nice house. Probably 300k to 500k. Nice neighborhood.

This was the first thing I noticed, actually. It immediately reminded me of the DVD they released at the convention this year - the elder in that lived in a HUGE house.

There's no way that this isn't intentional. Firstly it creates a subliminal message "Do more for the cult and you'll be able to live like this.' There's also the less subtle message for anyone who might be a little disenfranchised with the cult due to lost opportunities - people who are doing cart witnessing day-in and day-out are living in huge houses with 3 car garages. It's not our fault that you don't live like this.

It's a similar strategy to what I think is a very calculated move to have all the GB members wearing an excess of gold rings/watches, etc. They relatively subtly (I know we go to great lengths analyzing it here, but the average JW probably doesn't notices consciously) convey an image of success, wealth and power. Again, the message is "I'm successful because of the cult, you can be too!"

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At the meeting... And I have #3 Talk

by cappytan in

wife ended up sick this evening.

so i'm by myself because i have talk #3 and i didn't know she would be sick.

buzzing on 4 beers and 1 bourbon and coke.

OneEyedJoe

I understand the individuals disdain for the cult and that once awake there's no real reason to play by their rules, but I think it is selfish to not show some consideration for others there who do take it seriously. Why not just stay home instead? you are going to quit anyway right?

You have to know it's not that simple. At least not for everyone.

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At the meeting... And I have #3 Talk

by cappytan in

wife ended up sick this evening.

so i'm by myself because i have talk #3 and i didn't know she would be sick.

buzzing on 4 beers and 1 bourbon and coke.

OneEyedJoe

Damn...this thread got all serious all of a sudden.

Welcome to the morning after

WMF - I don't get your reasoning. It's a cult and doesn't deserve to be treated with dignity. Turning up drunk for a talk is about the level of respect that is warranted. Plus, it sounds like cappytan had the same experience I've had - I give way better talks when I'm a couple bourbons deep.

Now I'll agree that there's nothing great about being an alcoholic, but you don't have to be an alcoholic to feel like you need a drink before a cult meeting.

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At the meeting... And I have #3 Talk

by cappytan in

wife ended up sick this evening.

so i'm by myself because i have talk #3 and i didn't know she would be sick.

buzzing on 4 beers and 1 bourbon and coke.

OneEyedJoe

You're forgetting that the org is part of the Jw trinity:

The org, jehovah, jesus

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At the meeting... And I have #3 Talk

by cappytan in

wife ended up sick this evening.

so i'm by myself because i have talk #3 and i didn't know she would be sick.

buzzing on 4 beers and 1 bourbon and coke.

OneEyedJoe

Haha I've started drinking before all my talks. I do a much better job that way. Have fun with it, and remember, it doesn't matter!

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Prank call to Governing Body member Anthony Morris III gets through

by Watchtower-Free in

alert..............alert.....breaking news .......... john cedars of jwsurvey has pranked called governing body member anthony morris iii at bethel .

over 2 minutes of pranking .

as i type he is editing the recording into a video .

OneEyedJoe

Personally, I think that the method he used to reach a GB member would have been much more valuable in the hands of a journalist. ABC (or was it NBC) recently got access to film the Candice Conti appeal, and I'm sure they would've jumped at the chance to get a quick sound bite from a GB member.

He could well have coached them on the lingo, and how to keep up the facade of being a member (if that would've been necessary) and a proper journalist with experience in asking tough questions from people in power would likely have made much more of the opportunity than to scold AMIII for his tight-pants rant.

This was an opportunity squandered, and another thing for indoctrinated JWs to point at in order to reinforce the "bitter apostate" label. Maybe it wouldn't have yielded any results in the hands of a journalist, but at least it would've had a chance. As it is, this was worthless at best and damaging to the apostate cause at worst.

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Magic in Watchtower World..Sparlock the Warrior Wizard Toy..VS..The Singing WBT$ Literature "Cart with a Heart"..

by OUTLAW in

in watchtower world... magic is evil.....from satan!

the wbt$ video "become jehovahs friend"... is about caleb and his sparlock warrior wizard toy... the lesson is "magic is evil"... .

in the wbt$ video 'if you could see what i see"... your taken though the day of a wbt$ literature "cart with a heart"... it has a home... it thinks..it can see..it hears..it sings..it can feel!!...

OneEyedJoe

C'mon it's good magic..you know white witch..black witch. How about a dual between a good cart and a bad cart!! Lol

Reminds me of a local needs a while back when twilight was all the rage. While he didn't mention the movie by name, it was clear what he meant. He even went so far as to say "some of the kids that want to see these movies have said things like 'but they're good vampires'... Are you hearing yourself???"

If anyone happens to know of any quotes from the WT where they called talking inanimate objects demonic or satanic, I'd love to have that for reference.

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GB need to go back into hiding like they use to be.

by thedepressedsoul in

the broadcasting, annual meetings, wt articles, talks etc... that show these gb members upfront are killing them!

they are not only making a complete fool of themselves but they expect us to sit and watch them, listen to them and then believe they are the direct communication with jehovah!?!.

i can't tell you how many comments i've heard from "spiritual" people that i thought i'd never hear them say, not in a good way!

OneEyedJoe

Yeah, it's easy for you and I to say that it's a mistake, but it may well be great for them in the long run. It will almost certainly push a few out, but people inevitably want someone to follow. They want a figure head. Just like the isrealites (supposedly) wanted a king instead of just following the instructions of the priests and judges, many JWs will likely lap it up because it's human nature to want to have someone to follow.

Some will leave, but the ones that don't will be increasingly more zealous from it all.

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I just had a thought about the new KH design

by JeffT in

i've been trying to figure out the purpose of the new (bland, commercial style) building that the gb is pushing.

it is not a design that attracts attention, nor does it offer a lot in future resale value.

it will be more difficult to build than the wood residential style buildings, meaning they can't use their cheap unskilled labor force for a lot of the work.

OneEyedJoe

if the building has been dedicated to God, how could they turn around and sell it?

As dedicated witnesses of Jehovah, we still must "sell" our skills and labor to an employer to provide for everyday necessities. Similarly, what a wonderful opportunity we have to support kingdom interests by renting out dedicated buildings in order to fund the preaching work!

Doesn't take much to twist things in order to justify it. The civil rights issues could probably be side-stepped in most cases too. For one thing, I can't see any gays wanting to get married in a KH. JWs only do it because they can't afford a nicer place due to the education ban or the fact that they mostly get married right out of highschool. what in the world (other than having it out for the cult) would motivate some gays to want to get married there? Even in that case, can't churches establish rules about who can get married there? Things like pre-marital counseling, etc? They could probably make it either prohibitively expensive for a non-JW to get married there, or set the rules so strict that no one would bother. They could count all the meetings, etc that JWs do as time towards this requirement and therefore JWs could still use it to get married without the trouble.

Anyway, I suspect they'd be able to come up with something. If not, they can always quote a few scriptures out of context to silence any critics.