in bible times the phrase "the son of god" was understood as a claim to the nature of god, not a claim to be a lesser being:.
" john 19:7. .
ron rhodes commments:.
I would just like to ask this one question:
Is getting the answer to this question about jehovah right,,is this a matter of geting,,, or,, not getting everlasting life from God??
Does it?? is it???
Why do you spend so much time argueing about this matter????
Actually a little more than 1 question.
as jws we learned the utmost central watchtower doctrine that jesus returned "invisibly" in 1914 (well it was 1874, but then j. f. rutherford decided jesus really, really, really returned at a later date ... this is also known to jws as "jesus second presence" (greek: parousia = english: presence):.
ref.
related new thread at: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/70098/1.ashx .
I think this jesus guy is in the crapper,,,and he can't get out!!!
To coin a phrase.
as jws we learned the utmost central watchtower doctrine that jesus returned "invisibly" in 1914 (well it was 1874, but then j. f. rutherford decided jesus really, really, really returned at a later date ... this is also known to jws as "jesus second presence" (greek: parousia = english: presence):.
ref.
related new thread at: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/70098/1.ashx .
Thi,
I won't get into it in this thread but if you started a thread about "How accurate is the Bible historically"
I think you would find how historically inaccurate the Bible really is.
as jws we learned the utmost central watchtower doctrine that jesus returned "invisibly" in 1914 (well it was 1874, but then j. f. rutherford decided jesus really, really, really returned at a later date ... this is also known to jws as "jesus second presence" (greek: parousia = english: presence):.
ref.
related new thread at: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/70098/1.ashx .
HS,
Thanks,, I know that most who are commenting know this,, but some don't and I thought it to be relevent,, because if we approach it from that angle we are freer to come to a more correct conclusion.
We can thus rule out in trying to think what was on jesus mind when those words were uttered. We don't even have to consider this at all in comming to our conclusion.
as jws we learned the utmost central watchtower doctrine that jesus returned "invisibly" in 1914 (well it was 1874, but then j. f. rutherford decided jesus really, really, really returned at a later date ... this is also known to jws as "jesus second presence" (greek: parousia = english: presence):.
ref.
related new thread at: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/70098/1.ashx .
I think the gospels are important,, not for historical accuracy but,,more simply because it is an ancient document and therefore sheds much light on myths and how they may have evovled over time.
as jws we learned the utmost central watchtower doctrine that jesus returned "invisibly" in 1914 (well it was 1874, but then j. f. rutherford decided jesus really, really, really returned at a later date ... this is also known to jws as "jesus second presence" (greek: parousia = english: presence):.
ref.
related new thread at: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/70098/1.ashx .
Actually I think it very important to remember that these gospel accounts are highly imaginative and not very accurate when it come to reporting what actually was said,,and done by jesus or his disciples,,these were stories and embelishments used for church doctrine.
the watchtower, august 1, 2002 issue, pages 14 and 22:
the watchtower, june 15, 1957 issue, page 370: .
the watchtower, june 1, 1955 issue, page 333: .
All I can say is:
Be very suspicous of anyone representing a God that does not comunicate,,,claiming that they are being used by him to communicate,,this is a dead contradiction.
as a self ordained spokes person for his majesty jehovah,,i would like to dutifully carry out my comission faithfully,, so as not to incurr the wrath of his most highness.
now for those of you who do not believe me to be jehovah's self-appointed spokesman,, just ask jehovah for yourself,, if he don't answer you,, it means youv'e probably pissed him off,, and in that case he ain't gonna answer you so you'll just have to take my word for.
this is what jehovah of armies says:::: " you guys are starting to really piss me off,, who told to you can examine the bible,,, to see if this is my word,, or not,,, you have such little faith,,, you keep searching the scriptures,,, to find out if there are faults,,, well,,, you know how i feel about faith,,, and you people are not exercising that right now,,, why if i had a lightning bolt right now,,, i smite every one of yus,,, your'e a noisy,, lot!!!
Stef,,
No I never was professional. Maybe someday. I've only recently in my 30 of tinkering with the guitar,,have I seen real improvement in my playing,, some of this I attribute to marijuana and getting out of the cult which in turn allows me to: getting more pratice,,especially on my timeing.
I have discovered a new (to me anyway) of keeping time,, I use the metronome for counting 6,7, or 8,, per beat of the nome.. I think I may really be on to something intresting. It really free you up.
as a self ordained spokes person for his majesty jehovah,,i would like to dutifully carry out my comission faithfully,, so as not to incurr the wrath of his most highness.
now for those of you who do not believe me to be jehovah's self-appointed spokesman,, just ask jehovah for yourself,, if he don't answer you,, it means youv'e probably pissed him off,, and in that case he ain't gonna answer you so you'll just have to take my word for.
this is what jehovah of armies says:::: " you guys are starting to really piss me off,, who told to you can examine the bible,,, to see if this is my word,, or not,,, you have such little faith,,, you keep searching the scriptures,,, to find out if there are faults,,, well,,, you know how i feel about faith,,, and you people are not exercising that right now,,, why if i had a lightning bolt right now,,, i smite every one of yus,,, your'e a noisy,, lot!!!
Stef,
Used to be bluegrass,, but lately,, I'm working on something more personal,, that I think it very different,, I don't know what to make of it,, it is mostly right hand work with lots of string crossovers and subtle string attacts,, very hyponotic,, with many variations on simple themes. That's the best way I can discribe it.
And no I don't do covers,, what ever that is,, or maybe I do???
as a self ordained spokes person for his majesty jehovah,,i would like to dutifully carry out my comission faithfully,, so as not to incurr the wrath of his most highness.
now for those of you who do not believe me to be jehovah's self-appointed spokesman,, just ask jehovah for yourself,, if he don't answer you,, it means youv'e probably pissed him off,, and in that case he ain't gonna answer you so you'll just have to take my word for.
this is what jehovah of armies says:::: " you guys are starting to really piss me off,, who told to you can examine the bible,,, to see if this is my word,, or not,,, you have such little faith,,, you keep searching the scriptures,,, to find out if there are faults,,, well,,, you know how i feel about faith,,, and you people are not exercising that right now,,, why if i had a lightning bolt right now,,, i smite every one of yus,,, your'e a noisy,, lot!!!
Stef,,
That's me and I'm play with my(self) guitar.
