Lisarose
thats an interesting way to look at it. I've never thought of it that way before but u may very we'll be right.
when i think back on when i started losing faith in the borg it all becomes kinda fuzzy.
even when i was 19, a pioneer an ms and the local golden boy i clearly remember lying about my field service time every month.
if i really feared jehovah there's no way i would of done that.
Lisarose
thats an interesting way to look at it. I've never thought of it that way before but u may very we'll be right.
when i think back on when i started losing faith in the borg it all becomes kinda fuzzy.
even when i was 19, a pioneer an ms and the local golden boy i clearly remember lying about my field service time every month.
if i really feared jehovah there's no way i would of done that.
When I think back on when I started losing faith in the Borg it all becomes kinda fuzzy. Even when I was 19, a pioneer an MS and the local golden boy I clearly remember lying about my Field service time Every month. If I really feared jehovah there's no way I would of done that.
was listening to bbc radio 4 late sunday night, and in a programme about migration, they referenced the "babylonian conquest of jerusalem in 607 b.c.
" which caught my attention.. did they not mean 587 b.c., or did i understand it wrong?.
the link to the programme is below - sorry if you're not in the u.k. as you probably won't be able to listen to bbc programmes.
If there is an on air correction, I would love to hear it. That would be great audio for my archives.
i have been really enjoying the new series of videos on youtube by "watchtower examination".
the dude is wicked smart.
just curious if he is a member on this forum?.
I have been really enjoying the new series of videos on YouTube by "Watchtower Examination". The dude is wicked smart. Just curious if he is a member on this forum?
my thread was inspired by gentledawn's insightful comment about the effect the events in wales had on her jw husband.... hope any lurkers out there can filter out the signal (storys and experiences like this) to noise (the current trolls running amok on the forums) ratios.
this the problem with those who focus on outrageous fantasies about the watchtower.
it distracts from the real issues that need to be highlighted.. what happened in wales was for real.
I don't think that I'm smart enough to understand what FOCUS is talking about.
my thread was inspired by gentledawn's insightful comment about the effect the events in wales had on her jw husband.... hope any lurkers out there can filter out the signal (storys and experiences like this) to noise (the current trolls running amok on the forums) ratios.
this the problem with those who focus on outrageous fantasies about the watchtower.
it distracts from the real issues that need to be highlighted.. what happened in wales was for real.
I don't think that I'm smart enough to understand what FOCUS is talking about.
my thread was inspired by gentledawn's insightful comment about the effect the events in wales had on her jw husband.... hope any lurkers out there can filter out the signal (storys and experiences like this) to noise (the current trolls running amok on the forums) ratios.
this the problem with those who focus on outrageous fantasies about the watchtower.
it distracts from the real issues that need to be highlighted.. what happened in wales was for real.
Great post cofty. I agree with your sentiments.
i just walked back from getting my mail and happen to walk right by an automobile that belongs to the jw's who live in the end of my building.
the sticker in the low left of the windshield caught my attention so i stopped to read it.
it was a sticker that said......advanced medical directive.....no blood!
I have never seen a sticker like that. Their witness friends probably think that they are a little bit wacko.
i was talking with a still in relative today who mentioned how they had this sister with 3 or 4 kids over recently.
they said she is returning ot meetings and coming back into the truth, etc.
i remember when i was still in, the only ones i ever saw trying to return were generally the single moms with lots of baggage.
The mom was raised a jdub. Left but was still indoctrinated. Her life sucks now so she thinks it's because she left the org. She probably has no family support outside the org. The shunning policy is very successfull.
i have been told by some in the cong that i don't seem to be as happy anymore..."what's wrong?
" they ask..... i feel like screaming out "i'm not happy because i'm going insane living a sham fake life stuck in the org pretending to be a good ms and witness!".
i really do feel it is taking a toll on me...and even the damn bros and sis are now seeing it!.
Stuckinarut
It sounds like we r in much the same situation. The first thing I need to do is step down as a servant. That's actually a pretty difficult thing to do without raising any red flags. I've heard of plenty of elders stepping down to allow for more time with their families. But being an ms really doesn't require that much time to allow for that excuse. Do you have any ideas on how to make that first step. I really can't imagine totally cutting out the Borg at this time Everyone in my life that matters to me is inside.