Posts by Ignoranceisbliss

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questions

by DanielC in

i've been dating a jw girl for about 4 years and we've recently had a lot of issues with the fact that her family doesn't like that i'm not a jw.

i've been looking into the religion and am interested in it.

but is it wrong to join just so i don't lose her?

Sounds like they are weak Dubs. The kids that left probably faded and never disassociated or got disfellowshipped. My brother faded and my parents still associate with him. If she is dating a worldly guy "you" then she is definitly not in good standing. A young guy got "marked" at my last hall for dating someone who wasn't baptized. This means that other witnesses would only hang around him at the meetings. No extra association. They stuck thru and eventually got married though.

Is your lady baptized? Does she believe it's "the truth"? If she is awake but only stays in for family reasons then there may be hope.

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I want to take them down

by cookiemaster in

hey guys!

some of you might know about my latest clash with the elders.

i see the pressure this cult is putting on my family.

Ignoranceisbliss

I could be an elder in 6 months. Prob a cobe in 5 years. Even then though what is the most damage I could accomplish? Very minimal at best. Also not sure I wouldn't crack emotionally.

I would prefer to leave the Borg and live a good life.

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Endure! Life is hard! Lost? We are Miserable ? Don't think so

by ducatijoe in

its a rainy day and have been reading posts.. i would like to respond to the comments of those still in, post to those who have decided to leave.. what ever you have been told or may think about what will happen without "the truth" , is not true.

my life without the wbts is fantastic.

no stress, live in a beautiful place, great new friends and total peace of mind.

Ignoranceisbliss

Great post joe

Im terrified of the future. Mostly of losing my little princesses to this cult. Thanks for the positive words.

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Seeking support during confusing and stressful 'cognitive dissonance'

by LHS123 in

jw
friends

sorry for the long post but i need help.

ive been a jw for 20 years - still active and attending meetings, baptised at 18, i have recently become very dissillusioned.

a few reasons: ill treatment of my kids by a prominent 'assembly speaker' elder, then my son left the truth at 15 (not baptised) and was 'dropped' instantly, despite this community having been his whole life for 15 years.

Ignoranceisbliss

Wow. All of your issues with this Religion are almost the same as mine. I am in a very similar situation except that my kids are very young. I often wonder if I would be better off clueless and happy in this religion. Hence my name. In reality though knowing the facts is definitly a good thing. I know that I have to tear off the bandaid and leave the religion at some point but the reality is that it will be an incredibly painful process to go through. It only gets harder. I am a year in and still faking it and it is very difficult to pull off. Take your time and make calculated decisions. Good luck!

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Thank you for redirecting me to the right organization!

by economy in

thank you, jw.net and cofty, for redirecting me to the right organization!.

when i posted why did god permit scriptures to be corrupted?

then i thought, if there is an organization that believes all scriptures are corrupted (which obviously makes it enemy of all religions), that organization is not ordinary, but gutsy, lionhearted, and worthy of close examination!

Ignoranceisbliss

This is classic! What a goofball.

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"What will I do if I leave Jehovah's Witnesses ?"

by Balaamsass2 in

whenever we visit the board we see a lot of angst among jehovah's witnesses who are just learning the tatt (the truth about the truth).

hey, don't feel bad, we had it at one time ourselves.

"angst means fear or anxiety (anguish is its latinate equivalent, and anxious, anxiety are of similar origin).

Ignoranceisbliss

I really appreciate the encouragement. I hope it is as glorious as u propose. Here is the other angle.

I tell my wife that I no longer want to be a witness and I refuse to raise my kids as witnesses any longer. She feels blindsided and goes to the elders. They recommend that she separate from me as I am a spiritual endangerment. In the end I am disfellowshipped and we divorce. At court both my parents, her parents and my siblings support her. They are all witnesses and now I am an apostate. She gets custody of the kids. I get them every other weekend. I also have to pay alimony and child support as she has always been a stay at home mom. I have to get an apartment as she was also awarded the house to raise the kids in. Now I'm broke. I have no family. I rarely get to see my own kids. I have no friends. Everything that matters in my life has been torn away.

Sure lets leave the witnesses and dance! It's all so simple and fantastic.

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Another "reaching out" guilt trip this weekend, apparently.

by OneEyedJoe in

i just got word that the brothers of my congregation is "encouraged to attend a special meeting" this saturday.

i was told to bring the od book, and the 9/15/14 and 4/15/15 study wts.

judging by the articles in those, it's going to be another guilt trip to get all us dead-beat kids in our 20s and 30s to "reach out" to be jr. cult leaders.

Ignoranceisbliss

Nothing about this at out hall. Our elders sure are old though. About one of them has died each year for the past few years. Most of the 30 year olds in our hall are MS but really no signs of them reaching out beyond that.

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Who REALLY believed in the idea of living forever on earth??

by stuckinarut2 in

seriously.....even when you were 100% in "the truth", did you really believe in living forever?

?

Ignoranceisbliss

Not sure if I ever really believed it. For the past ten years I have had some major doubts. Now I know it's all bunk. The idea that you can cheat death is just so stupid. My 60 yr old dad really thinks that he won't die.

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Being in a cult - what good did it do?

by Garrett in

jw
friends

so, here's a bit of a different point of view.

while most of us will agree that our time within the jw cult was rather terrible, however, i'd like to look at another aspect.

did anything good come out of being in a cult and then waking up from it?.

Ignoranceisbliss

Really interesting discussion and something that I think about often.

As a still in Dub with a great life, wonderful (fully indoctrinated) wife, and two beautiful kids, I wonder what I would have had if I wasn't born into this cult.

My mom is a super hero type. I give her the majority of the credit for raising three fairly well balanced children. In the end I think that she was able to do this in spite of this cult. Not as a result of it.

I feel that those that thrive in DubLand probably would of done even better without it. Would those that had a horrible existence in this cult have done better without it? I am not so sure.

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Memorial attendance up or down on last year?

by freddo in

jw
friends

as per the title.

and was the one you attended at an early or late time of the evening.. any partakers?.

Ignoranceisbliss

Late time slot. Attendance was down significantly. No partakers.