Posts by RichardHaley

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What is the best advise you have ever been given?

by new hope and happiness in

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awhile a go i was uptight about a matter i can't remember now and my friend said to me " give the other side the victory".

a while ago my little boy was getting uptight and argumentative with his mum i asked him " to let it go" in effect i suppose " giving the other side the victory".

anyway i am sure our life exsperiences have allowed us both receive and give good advice.

RichardHaley

"If you don't promote it you don't have to defend it."

I was counciled for watching R rated movies... I had mentioned Schindler's List out in service and someone in the car group ratted me out.

Another Elder who admitted to watching Rs told me the above...

It is really good advice and applies to more than you would think.

When asked why I'm currently inactive I used the above line of reasoning in reverse...

I can't defend (from the bible) new lite such as overlapping generations so how can I promote it?

The Elder admitted he didn't understand it either but he was "waiting on Jehovah."

"My sentiments exactly" I said, he gave me a weird look.

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HOW TO AVOID THE A-HOLE SPIRIT OF SOME HERE...

by DATA-DOG in

1) take meds for your megalomania and delusions of grandeur.. .

suggestions welcome.. .

dd.

Born-in (well almost, age 3) and active most of life. Now past the speed limit, decided to live the rest of life as "evidence based" (a little late...lol) no matter where that my lead. Have discovered how much I didn't know and this site with its broad membership and openness has contributed immensely. There is benefit from all types of comments and ideas because that's helpful to come to conclusions. However when someone chooses to attack or try to humiliate other posters or overly draws attention to themselves it is noticed and reduces the value of their comments or ideas. Most here avoid that thus creating the positive environment here to be able to grow. I must admit, when logging on to this site there are certain posters that I am drawn too and others I am less apt to view for the above mentioned reasons. This has so far been a very interesting (and revealing) thread. Thanks to all posters.

P.S. I hate that captcha... can't make out the "wigglies" only the addresses

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Contradictory geneology of Jesus

by rebel8 in

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so i'm reading another carl sagan book and he seems to invariably find a way to slam j-dubs in each one.

(i can't say i blame him.).

anyway, in this one he discusses the fact that the gospels give contradictory geneologies of jesus--differing lines back to david from joseph, and a different number of generations.

RichardHaley

I always understood this to be two separate lineages one being Joseph's (legal) and the other, Mary's (biological). One goes back to Abraham the other all the way back to Adam. Throw in some names being left out, some repeated twice and a brother-in-law marriage or two and the contradictions can be worked out. But now I need to shake the indoctrination and do the research... I hold Carl Sagan in high regard, that should raise a red flag in itself.

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Controversial Opinion: Why the web site campaign is actually brilliant

by Apognophos in

there's a lot of talk right now about how stupid it is to have jws hand out leaflets with urls on them.

"why go to someone's door to tell them they can visit a web site that lets them ask for someone to come to their door?

" well, i'm sorry, but i have to weigh in with a contrary opinion here on how clever the society is.

RichardHaley

You gotta admit, no one else is going door-to-door to tell you to visit websites.

This was my thought exactly... from an Internet Marketer's standpoint one can't help be jealous... no worries about keyword research, back links, or paid advertising... just employ your army of slaves to send you the traffic and in turn the search engines will reward you with great page placement since you must seemingly providing valuable content to your readers, why else for all the traffic? Throw enough sh*t on the wall and some will stick.

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Just Curious About Something

by EmptyInside in

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sorry,couldn't think of a better title for this post,without it being long.. i was thinking this morning,if ex-jws, who were born into the group less likely to join another religion after leaving.

vs. the witnesses who belonged to a church before joining the religion.. from my own prespective,being raised a witness,i have no intention of joining any religion.

and it seems that born-ins are less likely to join a religion after leaving the cult.. in my own experience,i think it's religious burn-out to tell the truth.

RichardHaley

Now I am worn out from being a JW and think I need a rest. Probably won't get one though as I am still in there due to family and other commitments.

The above statement is me to a "T". Might not be able to completely rest from it but I am going to be a very good slacker in all things JW.

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Should The Governing Body Take A Good Look At Their Cookies And See Where People Are Going Before They Dine At The Y(JW.Org)?

by frankiespeakin in

when people visit their site they leave a cookie foot print.

the governing body as dutiful ceos need to examine this bit of information closely so as to see where these visitors have been before comming to their site.

they need to find out what apostate sites they are visiting.

RichardHaley

Your biggest risk would be a friend/family member looking over your sholder/checking your browsing history (ctl+h keys) and then gossiping/reporting what you are doing. Clearing browsing history and/or using incognito mode will protect you from most of this threat.

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History of JW.org domain

by Gorbatchov in

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it's nice to know that the wts bought the domainname jw.org from the jewish woman assosiation.. g.. .

RichardHaley

On 2 March 2000 'DougOnline.com's Domains For Sale' appears to be selling the domain

https://web.archive.org/web/20000302125103/http://jw.org/

I see JV.org not JW.org

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why did they have to butcher the kingdom melodies?

by purrpurr in

its not like there was anything wrong with them was there?

i used to love the old ones.

these new ones feel like the equivalent of a deflated balloon.. does anyone have the answer?.

RichardHaley

In retrospect, that was one of the first changes to the new JW.org and the killing of the religion as we knew it.

agreed!

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GOVERNING BODY PATTERNS OF DECEPTION

by Terry in

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pattern of excuses.

" zion's watch tower 1894 jul 15 p.226.

(compare isaiah 8:11-13.

RichardHaley

Awesome OP Terry... also your idea of a book with just all contradictory quotes reminds me of that "Quote site" the the WT$ took down and stole the domain through intimidation tactics. My first thoughts of waking up was when I first discovered that site. Even though I was totally indoctrinated at the time I reasoned that the site couldn't be considered "apostate" when only WT$ content was presented.

That sad affair reminded me of the "golden rule" WT$ style... "he who has the gold rules..."

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Women Please give us men a little credit, we are not so dumb.

by jam in

the wife and i had a argument of all things, the correct way.

to peel an egg.. i'm making tuna salad and she comes up.

and looking over my shoulder, "you know that's not the correct.

RichardHaley

Man is the head woman is the neck... guess what controls the head?