the un has banned religion.
what are you're thoughts?.
also changes to it seem to be on the way.... http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/12/trump-vows-israel-vote-161224040133216.html.
You guys realize of course that talking to us like this is a
disfellowshipping offence which should tell us two things,
1. This man doesn't take his own beliefs seriously therefore he is full of it,
2. Unless he is remorseful and repents to the elders (even if he claims that he is one)
-By their own Theology he will die at Armageddon
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i've had several discussion about the basis for faith in an all powerful creator for the universe, and it seems as if the conversation often comes back to, "well, either way, you have to have faith either in a creator or in the process of evolution because you can't observe that either.
" setting aside the issue of creation and evolution (where i currently sit at undecided), i was also troubled by the tendency to treat faith as a static or absolute concept when in reality it is far more complex.. to begin with, faith isn't just about belief, it combines the concepts of belief and trust.
for the purposes of this discussion, i will be focusing primarily on the second attribute.
Which level of faith would you suggest we have for the murderer of 70000 INNOCENT men (just so we have the magnitude right start counting 0- 70000 let me know when you're done) INNOCENT because David sinned, Can you hear the screams of women throughout the land and their children, WHERE'S DADDY?! JEHOVAH KILLED HIM!! WHY? WAS DADDY BAD! NAH JEHOVAH MUST'VE BEEN HAVING A BAD DAY, Such a loving kind wonderful God we have! LET'S SING PRAISES TO JEHOVAH!!
LET'S HAVE FAITH IN OUR WONDERFUL GOD, But let's see, what LEVEL of faith should we have in this WONDEROUS THING?
i've had several discussion about the basis for faith in an all powerful creator for the universe, and it seems as if the conversation often comes back to, "well, either way, you have to have faith either in a creator or in the process of evolution because you can't observe that either.
" setting aside the issue of creation and evolution (where i currently sit at undecided), i was also troubled by the tendency to treat faith as a static or absolute concept when in reality it is far more complex.. to begin with, faith isn't just about belief, it combines the concepts of belief and trust.
for the purposes of this discussion, i will be focusing primarily on the second attribute.
the un has banned religion.
what are you're thoughts?.
also changes to it seem to be on the way.... http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/12/trump-vows-israel-vote-161224040133216.html.
the un has banned religion.
what are you're thoughts?.
also changes to it seem to be on the way.... http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/12/trump-vows-israel-vote-161224040133216.html.
it really is great.
i remember browsing this forum the day after i had joined it, and their was a knock on the door.
i thought it was one of my package from ups but instead it was two sisters.
it really is great.
i remember browsing this forum the day after i had joined it, and their was a knock on the door.
i thought it was one of my package from ups but instead it was two sisters.
so my parents continue to pester me about getting baptized.
the other day my dad told me that i was old enough to make a decision, and was wondering why i wasn't ready (assembly is in a few weeks) so i told him calmly that i have many doubts and if i were to get baptized it has to be 100 percent my idea.
he was a little annoyed by this, and now wants to study the "is there a creator that cares about you" book (which is complete bs) with me.
Tell the elders you don't want to get baptized but are being pressured,
Nobody will baptize you,
However you will have to face your father and his anger issues,
Maybe the elders will talk to him and that might help (?)
Too many unknowns,
Good luck
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it really is great.
i remember browsing this forum the day after i had joined it, and their was a knock on the door.
i thought it was one of my package from ups but instead it was two sisters.
i asked my son to stop playing football.
it was a simple kick about he was playing with a friend using the garage door as the goal.
i then went to my home and thought no more about it.
The Rebel,
Just speaking for myself,
My lifelong journey (60 years) with and leaving the Jehovah's Witnesses
brings to the fore a lot of emotion, frustration and anger,
Much of what I write here is actually venting,
As such, I'm not always in a position to carefully itemize my reasons
for a particular position,
Rest assured that your posts are read and appreciated,
No lengthy explanations are necessary,
Cheers,
