i have often seen many categorise the organisation in different ways.
some say cult, some say high control religion.
cult or high control religion?.
Last statement did nor come out right
I did not mean to imply that anyone was stupid
I meant to say that probably the people that committed mass suicide in
Guyana
were smart enough,
But that did not prevent them from doing very harmful "faith inspired "
things
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i have often seen many categorise the organisation in different ways.
some say cult, some say high control religion.
cult or high control religion?.
Well they haven't brought out the Kool-aid yet
On the other hand,
How many have let their children die because their faith forbids some
Medical treatments
You know the Jim Jones people were probably not that stupid
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"traumatic as the initial transition may be, it can lead to the development of a truly personal relationship with these two greatest friends [the father and the son] .
.. "whatever sense of 'belonging' that membership in some religious system may create, it can never compare with the power and beauty and strengthening benefit of the intimate personal relationship the scripture presents .
from reading joseph campbell i've come to understand that there are functions to religion or mythology.
"traumatic as the initial transition may be, it can lead to the development of a truly personal relationship with these two greatest friends [the father and the son] .
.. "whatever sense of 'belonging' that membership in some religious system may create, it can never compare with the power and beauty and strengthening benefit of the intimate personal relationship the scripture presents .
from reading joseph campbell i've come to understand that there are functions to religion or mythology.
"traumatic as the initial transition may be, it can lead to the development of a truly personal relationship with these two greatest friends [the father and the son] .
.. "whatever sense of 'belonging' that membership in some religious system may create, it can never compare with the power and beauty and strengthening benefit of the intimate personal relationship the scripture presents .
from reading joseph campbell i've come to understand that there are functions to religion or mythology.
Cassaruby,
Seriously,
I've noticed a lot of Evangelical Christians,
Don't necessarily like the news,
Just report it,
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after much research and prayer i am returning to being a jehovah's witness i can find nothing that eliminates them from being god's directed people , in the end they will reach the end of there journey despite mistakes and errors just like the israelites entered the promised land , thanks for your input and all the best on your personal journey ☺.
midnight..
I think that good advice was given regarding taking your time,
If you were thinking of making a purchase do you think that you'll get
objective help from a high pressure salesman
No!
Witnesses are direct salesmen of religion
Right?
When you feel calmer and at peace
Think of this:
How would you help a 5 yr old figure out religion?
Wouldn't you simply talk about the various beliefs and why people
Believe the ways that they do
Maybe the child will figure their own blend of beliefs that make sense to them,
Doesn't a belief system that can change with increasing knowledge and evidence make sense?
Main point here is don't be pressured
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during the olin moyle court case, some of the "jehovah's witnesses" witnesses were asked on the stand if they knew if the elevators were held at ground floor at lunchtime so that rutherford would not have to wait to use them when he returned to the building.. other people had to use the stairs; the elevators had to be kept ready for rutherford.. the jw witnesses denied knowing anything about this.
but in reading the transcript of the trial, one gets the impression that none of the jws wanted to admit anything negative about rutherford, for instance, that rutherford would give "trimmings" (verbal scolding) to individuals at lunchtime was not readily admitted by even clayton woodworth, a person who had direct experience being reprimanded by the "judge"!.
trying to get info from the witnesses appeared to be like squeezing water from a stone!
There's an interesting story as well with Walter Salter
(might be here already but missed it)
Branch Manager in Canada wrote an open scathing letter in 1937
echoing Moyle's charges against Rutherford
Got himself drummed out
There was unswerving loyalty to this man
I view him, in most ways, as the real founder of Jehovah's Witnesses
(he even coined the name)
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"traumatic as the initial transition may be, it can lead to the development of a truly personal relationship with these two greatest friends [the father and the son] .
.. "whatever sense of 'belonging' that membership in some religious system may create, it can never compare with the power and beauty and strengthening benefit of the intimate personal relationship the scripture presents .
from reading joseph campbell i've come to understand that there are functions to religion or mythology.
"traumatic as the initial transition may be, it can lead to the development of a truly personal relationship with these two greatest friends [the father and the son] .
.. "whatever sense of 'belonging' that membership in some religious system may create, it can never compare with the power and beauty and strengthening benefit of the intimate personal relationship the scripture presents .
from reading joseph campbell i've come to understand that there are functions to religion or mythology.
"traumatic as the initial transition may be, it can lead to the development of a truly personal relationship with these two greatest friends [the father and the son] .
.. "whatever sense of 'belonging' that membership in some religious system may create, it can never compare with the power and beauty and strengthening benefit of the intimate personal relationship the scripture presents .
from reading joseph campbell i've come to understand that there are functions to religion or mythology.
Hi Cassaruby,
We really don't have much of a choice unless the people who raised us
allowed us one,
The JW religion I was raised in gave me no choice or extremely little
choise,
In the comfort of my own home as a middle aged man I was not allowed
to read an article on Anthropology
It got to the point where I said (and partially believed) that I was evil
damned by God to whatever
Didn't care anymore
I know elders that killed themselves
I survived
I m thinking of a spacecraft leaving Earth's gravity
A whole lot of effort
Then you're free
So as Cofty is saying (hopefully I'm not misquoting)
Rational analysis of the evidence
It's called Critical Thinking,
Open minded
But not so much that your brains fall out
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