Re redvip and freddo's comments,
I see your point as a rule of thumb,
But I could see it going differently depending on the individual CO,
They're not all the same,
I'd hate to see the poor guy get blind sided,
:0)
so i got a text from an elder who i consider one of the good guys and a friend in his own way.. he asked if he could bring the co by for a visit.
he said it would be "just a pleasant call and visit and will hopefully encourage my wife".
he says that "he knows she is dealing with a ton of pressure".. in all my years around the organization, i never had a visit from the circuit overseer.
Re redvip and freddo's comments,
I see your point as a rule of thumb,
But I could see it going differently depending on the individual CO,
They're not all the same,
I'd hate to see the poor guy get blind sided,
:0)
so i got a text from an elder who i consider one of the good guys and a friend in his own way.. he asked if he could bring the co by for a visit.
he said it would be "just a pleasant call and visit and will hopefully encourage my wife".
he says that "he knows she is dealing with a ton of pressure".. in all my years around the organization, i never had a visit from the circuit overseer.
I might agree with pbrow in a way,
I was able to move and get away from this 'loving' harassment,
And still talk with my 80 year old mother until she dies,
If I could not do that,
I probably would have thought: Do your worst you SOBS,
And get some peace,
And where does all the love go when you simply and quietly disagree with
them,
Sad
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so i got a text from an elder who i consider one of the good guys and a friend in his own way.. he asked if he could bring the co by for a visit.
he said it would be "just a pleasant call and visit and will hopefully encourage my wife".
he says that "he knows she is dealing with a ton of pressure".. in all my years around the organization, i never had a visit from the circuit overseer.
so i got a text from an elder who i consider one of the good guys and a friend in his own way.. he asked if he could bring the co by for a visit.
he said it would be "just a pleasant call and visit and will hopefully encourage my wife".
he says that "he knows she is dealing with a ton of pressure".. in all my years around the organization, i never had a visit from the circuit overseer.
so i got a text from an elder who i consider one of the good guys and a friend in his own way.. he asked if he could bring the co by for a visit.
he said it would be "just a pleasant call and visit and will hopefully encourage my wife".
he says that "he knows she is dealing with a ton of pressure".. in all my years around the organization, i never had a visit from the circuit overseer.
In my experience routine "encouraging" calls are made with one elder and
one MS,
"Serious" calls are made by 2 elders,
"2 witness rule"
In my case, I told them sure, I'll talk to one of you anytime, not 2,
They kept insisting, I moved,
This was not encouraging,
This was harassment,
I was like Nikl,
I did nothing wrong,
I wasn't going to play their game though,
And let the terrorists win,
Bullies
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so i got a text from an elder who i consider one of the good guys and a friend in his own way.. he asked if he could bring the co by for a visit.
he said it would be "just a pleasant call and visit and will hopefully encourage my wife".
he says that "he knows she is dealing with a ton of pressure".. in all my years around the organization, i never had a visit from the circuit overseer.
SAHS,
Your argument is logical,
Sad to say I'm pretty sure it wouldn't win points with any Judiciary
Committee,
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so i got a text from an elder who i consider one of the good guys and a friend in his own way.. he asked if he could bring the co by for a visit.
he said it would be "just a pleasant call and visit and will hopefully encourage my wife".
he says that "he knows she is dealing with a ton of pressure".. in all my years around the organization, i never had a visit from the circuit overseer.
Um, Kairos, by your comment you don't sound like you're that familiar with Jehovah's Witnesses lol
If any baptized Witness tried to give a polite refusal this would
immediately be discussed by the elders amongst themselves,
The inactive refuser would be on everyone's radar,
And there would be intense efforts for two elders to meet with him and
this time he would be under investigation,
For Apostasy,
The results of this would be made to the body of elders,
Who would probably appoint a judicial committee,
That could disfelowship him,
From Jehovah's loving Organization,
Nice
amazing grace have been around since 1779, how great thou art 1885,holy holy holy 1826, be thou my vision (ireland) 6th century, all creatures of god and king (italy)1225. so you think one day we will hear a kingdumb song playing over the radio.
you would think surely jehovah want the world to be familiar with his hymns.... maybe they have instructed the rf to only sing their songs in the kh, only for special folks..
I think it would be quite difficult to track down the oldest song,
Years ago I was trying to collect all the old songs/books from the old
timers as they died, old books as well,
The thing is, and I'm working from memory here, the first all original
JW Songbook was "Singing and Accompanying Yourselves With Music in
Your Hearts" released in the 60s
This released maybe 119 songs all at once,
This replaced the Society's previous practice of taking the music from
"Christendom's" hymns and adding their lyrics creating a Frankenstein effect,
What is particularly upsetting to me is taking out (TRASHING) songs like
119? forever "Keep Your Eyes On the Prize" Why not just update the lyrics a bit?
They engage in modern day book burning, destroying their own culture,
They must be very ashamed of it if they feel a need to destroy it so!
I'm more proud of this music than they are,
And I think they're a cult! lol
PS one of these songs is "House to House" I believe it's gone(?) it was
written by Harold King WHILE HE WAS WAS IN SOLITARY CONFINEMENT
FOR FIVE YEARS IN RED CHINA, so what do these dipwads do?
I would have immortalized it!!
I love how they treat the memory of these people (sarcasm)
amazing grace have been around since 1779, how great thou art 1885,holy holy holy 1826, be thou my vision (ireland) 6th century, all creatures of god and king (italy)1225. so you think one day we will hear a kingdumb song playing over the radio.
you would think surely jehovah want the world to be familiar with his hymns.... maybe they have instructed the rf to only sing their songs in the kh, only for special folks..
I played under Vern Duncombe,
Brilliant composer,
Wrote and/or arranged the entire song book up to the 1970s,
Where is his work now,
I don't think that this is right,
Why did this happen?
Because there's a new kid on the block,
And the kids want new,
They're bored,
The greatest highlights at conventions are the "new" releases,
Ray Franz talked about this policy in CofC
Even Uncle Freddie's books went by the wayside,
And it applies to song books as well
:(
amazing grace have been around since 1779, how great thou art 1885,holy holy holy 1826, be thou my vision (ireland) 6th century, all creatures of god and king (italy)1225. so you think one day we will hear a kingdumb song playing over the radio.
you would think surely jehovah want the world to be familiar with his hymns.... maybe they have instructed the rf to only sing their songs in the kh, only for special folks..
Also today's music will be suppressed to make way for tomorrow's Jehovah's Witnes wanna be published composers ( all men of course)