i have often seen many categorise the organisation in different ways.
some say cult, some say high control religion.
cult or high control religion?.
I think these words are immaterial,
Does a group allow you freedom to think,
To formulate your own opinions
And express them
To act freely
Without coercion
If not
Are you free to leave without punishment
If not
Why would you join a group that does not recognize these basic
freedoms?
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regarding what happened post russell in 1917, if you ask a jw, they'll say it was the fault of the ousted board members who were 'self willed'.
if you ask an ex-jw, they'll say it was a 'power grab' by rutherford.
the latest yearbook elaborates on the situation:.
If your researching an easy place to start is Wikipedia: Joseph Franklin
Rutherford
Check your library system for Apocalypse Delayed -James Penton
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regarding what happened post russell in 1917, if you ask a jw, they'll say it was the fault of the ousted board members who were 'self willed'.
if you ask an ex-jw, they'll say it was a 'power grab' by rutherford.
the latest yearbook elaborates on the situation:.
Rutherford was a lawyer and found a legal way to get control of the corporation,
It involved a trip to Pennsylvania and coming back with the extra
vote needed to wrangle control and oust his enemies,
He celebrated his victory by prophesying the earthly resurrection of the
prophets in 1925 in the 1918 Booklet "Millions Now Living Will Never Die"
(If you'll allow me some sarcasm here:)
What a fine humble brother and example for us all!
All but banned marriage in his writings and speeches
The FIRST member president of the "Faithful and Discreet Slave Class"
Set the example for the modern day GB of NEVER apologizing for
destroying people's lives
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in appreciation of david bowie who died a year ago today.
also to george michael and all the other less famous people ( mouthy, school friend.
my aunt.
Rebel, Rebel
Your face is a mess!
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it really is great.
i remember browsing this forum the day after i had joined it, and their was a knock on the door.
i thought it was one of my package from ups but instead it was two sisters.
Congratulations Crazy!!
As the winner of the 200 Comment position with our beloved "A Believer":
You have won:
A personal audience with him (or is it "her"? :) )
For an entire hour you will run hand in hand with him/her on the beach of your choice
(travel expenses not included)
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so i ended up going to the meeting yesterday.
i have been absent for almost 2 months.
my wife was also absent as long but mostly out of chance.
Reading others' comments convinced me this is NOT a social call,
In a social call you don't invite yourself over to someone's house,
With a social call you invite someone to YOUR home,
If I were you I would call and say that I'm really not up to a visit (that's
what this is by the way a VISIT)
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so i ended up going to the meeting yesterday.
i have been absent for almost 2 months.
my wife was also absent as long but mostly out of chance.
I was just wondering if he'll be wearing a tie
contrary to popular belief you can have your baptism annulled as i did by my local elders after my judicial hearing.. the watchtower of 1964 page 126 first paragraph clearly states that anyone that was committing a gross sin before, during and after their baptism is void.
in order to get right with the lord you would need to be re-baptised.
err no thanks, i'm not a believer!!!!.
I'm missing something here,
This doesn't align with all other information I've gathered on the subject,
I look forward to hearing what other comments will be posted
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Watchtower policy won't normally align itself to 1964 eg at that time they werent pre qualifying with questions for instance
so i ended up going to the meeting yesterday.
i have been absent for almost 2 months.
my wife was also absent as long but mostly out of chance.
Regarding couple initiatives,
Yes probably a number of decades back,
Socializing was used as a way to try to bring an "unbelieving mate" into
the truth,
It was about the only worldly association that I can think of that was
deemed acceptable,
A lot of "worldly" mates (men) wisely declined,
Come to think of it apart from work, I can't think of any worldly
association, actually approved that doesn't include witnessing
Be prepared!
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so i ended up going to the meeting yesterday.
i have been absent for almost 2 months.
my wife was also absent as long but mostly out of chance.
Just something that occurred to me,
With a sister there
Especially with the visit under the guise of a social affair
There will be no confidentiality,
What will be said
In all probability
Will be broadcast
Thoughout the countryside
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