according to uk news reports http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28203914 institutions complicit in covering over or withholding current & historical information from the correct authorities when accusations, understandings & informations have been raised will hopefully be investigated.. this is to include all public associations including the government top brass, the police, the fostering commission as well as religious organisations.. what will be needed is for brave jw victims to come forward with there experiences & make the lo (loving organisation) accountable for there gross negligence & downright dirty tricks to protect the lo from any criticism or blame.. what do you think can be done to help these victims come forward & put there necks on the block & get this scum in court.. can this site move on something like this?.
thoughts please.. phats..
The only evidence the police need for now is for victims to come forward & speak out.
The more victims that come forward the more notice the problem will be given by the authorities.
The thing is, action will need to be organized & victims rallied.
This will get the ball rolling & get the borg investigated.
The more time the borg is given the more time they have to cover over there tracks.
Is it just me on this one?
Phats.
according to uk news reports http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28203914 institutions complicit in covering over or withholding current & historical information from the correct authorities when accusations, understandings & informations have been raised will hopefully be investigated.. this is to include all public associations including the government top brass, the police, the fostering commission as well as religious organisations.. what will be needed is for brave jw victims to come forward with there experiences & make the lo (loving organisation) accountable for there gross negligence & downright dirty tricks to protect the lo from any criticism or blame.. what do you think can be done to help these victims come forward & put there necks on the block & get this scum in court.. can this site move on something like this?.
thoughts please.. phats..
As I understood it, the WT wouldn't get any choice as to admit it or not. They would be fond gilty in a court of law. I'm sure many of the faithful will indulge in there sanctimonious grief stricken persecution orgasm, but if enough victims come forward together they stand a better chance of getting justice.
Phats.
according to uk news reports http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28203914 institutions complicit in covering over or withholding current & historical information from the correct authorities when accusations, understandings & informations have been raised will hopefully be investigated.. this is to include all public associations including the government top brass, the police, the fostering commission as well as religious organisations.. what will be needed is for brave jw victims to come forward with there experiences & make the lo (loving organisation) accountable for there gross negligence & downright dirty tricks to protect the lo from any criticism or blame.. what do you think can be done to help these victims come forward & put there necks on the block & get this scum in court.. can this site move on something like this?.
thoughts please.. phats..
According to UK news reports http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28203914 institutions complicit in covering over or withholding current & historical information from the correct authorities when accusations, understandings & informations have been raised will hopefully be investigated.
This is to include all public associations including the government top brass, the police, the fostering commission as well as religious organisations.
What will be needed is for brave JW victims to come forward with there experiences & make the LO (loving organisation) accountable for there gross negligence & downright dirty tricks to protect the LO from any criticism or blame.
What do you think can be done to help these victims come forward & put there necks on the block & get this scum in court.
Can this site move on something like this?
Thoughts please.
Phats.
easy... skip it!.
but already i had people calling me asking where i was yesterday!!!!
the system the jw's have in place can be compared to a communist regime , where everyone keeps a check on each other.
Well done suavojr,
It dose get easier as time goes by. I played it down for a while & when the heat started I kept dodging until they stopped. They new I had a ligit beef with them over something they did wrong so they put 2 & 2 together & made 5, well 5 was fine with me if it kept them of my back & it did. Only ever see them out & about now & I smile & they smile & that's about it.
Not bad hay.
Phats.
easy... skip it!.
but already i had people calling me asking where i was yesterday!!!!
the system the jw's have in place can be compared to a communist regime , where everyone keeps a check on each other.
No Stuck,
She's a lot better with all things JW now but still in.
She sees a lot more now but things are slow as she needs time. I don't think she will ever leave but there grip is less on her now. It was super strong but she is a lot more chilled now about the small stuff but I think it's in here blood more that mine (we were both born ins.)
Phats.
easy... skip it!.
but already i had people calling me asking where i was yesterday!!!!
the system the jw's have in place can be compared to a communist regime , where everyone keeps a check on each other.
My fade was right in the middle of our district assembly. I spent the program times in my car in the car park listening to CDs & then went in during the brakes to see my wife & kids.
It was a bit odd but it worked as my wife understood that I just couldn't listed to that crap any more but she was crying the days before wondering how she was going to manage without me being there as usual so we made a compromise. It did help to show everyone that something was up though & that help my fade as I gave me the impetus to keep fading.
Phats.
caleb: dad, can i ask you a question?.
dad: of course, my son.
havent i told you that you can come to me whenever you have a question?.
Dad: No Caleb it isn't. What you must never forget is that WHATEVER our Loving Organization asks of us we must do it. Do you remember what we were told in that WT the other week? We were told that even if what we are told makes no sense to us or we even think that it is wrong we MUST do it. Now we can't be doing that if we think for ourselves now can we?
Caleb: No Dad. I would not do anything horrible unless I was told that it wasn't horrible by our Loving organization. Like what you did to Uncle Charley.
Dad: I'm proud of you son. So proud.
caleb: dad, can i ask you a question?.
dad: of course, my son.
havent i told you that you can come to me whenever you have a question?.
Caleb: Thank you brother Narrow, So when I'm your age & I'm still waiting for the new system I can tell a little boy like me that it must be even closer now & then he can do the same when he is old like you & he is still waiting.
Caleb" Wow I can't wait to get old now.
hay out there.. wife got back from her thursday meeting & now she's setteled down with the dog, a v large g&t (maid be me) & watching terminator 2 on the telly with her ipad on her lap looking up places to go for our holiday (& googling symptoms of to many antibiotics as my 16 year old is getting signs of ibs).
so now is a good time to say hello.. well hello.
my name is phats & i'm an ex jehovah's witness.. there, i've said it.. this must be like it is going to your first aa meeting.. i've already used up some of my posts for a newbe but i'm not in to the whole long story thing.. basically i've been out now for 8 years (mentally out for all but four or five of those years of my life when i made the commitment, got baptized & married.).
Thank you for your kind words Aunt Fancy,
I hope so but it must be for the right reasons. I wouldn't feel so good about it if she was doing it just for me (I know she wouldn't ether as it would have happened by now.)
She needs to see it for what it is, a great big con.
I do live in internal hope though Aunt Fancy so maybe one day something will happen that will start her cognitive reasoning going the other way.
I have learnt though that anything coming from me on the subject dose not get a chance to sink in for to long & it's most probably looked on as my bias against the LO (Loving Organization) & to be frank she would have a point with that.
She needs to do this for herself & if that never happens then I will stay content knowing I was lucky enough to marry the greatest girl I've ever known:)
She's worth it.
Phats.
hi friends.
i have some questions for all who are fading.. .
do your friends in the old congregation know, that you maybe don't attend the meetings in the new congregation?.
Thanks Guys,
Lois, my understanding was that the letter had been sent, agreed upon, rubber stamped & returned.
I didn't get the impression anything could be done to make a reversal. That's why I asked for the elders to make a breaf statment saying that there had been a miscarriage on my behalf but that was not going to fly so I flew instead.
Rather pleased they didn't realy.
Phats.
