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For those of you that LEFT.....

by DocHouse in

...did you also toss your faith as well?.

phats

Sorry DocHouse. I can't work out if your last post is simply the standard JW bollocks I am used to getting.

Phats.

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For those of you that LEFT.....

by DocHouse in

...did you also toss your faith as well?.

When faith comes from a third party then it's not faith at all in my opinion. It may well be hope or desperation or a load of things but for me faith must be attached to the best evidence "you" can muster. When your evidence is spoon fed & prepared for you by someone else then all you get is what someone else wants you to get.

Phats.

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For those of you that LEFT.....

by DocHouse in

...did you also toss your faith as well?.

phats

My faith is stronger now than ever as now I can have faith in things that I can research without threats masked with lies & false agendas from strangers that don't have my best interests at heart.

Phats.

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When You See A Witness What's Your Reaction?

by minimus in

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friends

is it a feeling of---oh no!!?.

are you happy to see them?.

do you have a feeling of consternation?.

phats

I tend to only see them in Waitrose getting there free coffee so when I pass by I make a conscious move over to say hello with my hand outstretched. This tends to unnerve them so with a big smile & friendly positive demeanour I look them straight in the eye I say hello how are you? Then when they reply & ask how I am I tell them all the positive things that have happened in a quick & condensed fashion, close with a yes, I feel truly blest & then say oops I'm late for an important meeting & leave very happy & content. I can't help chuckle when I see the look on there faces.

The best revenge is just being happy, it throws them every time

Phats

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Simon, please update my profile picture!

by will-be-apostate in

i've read on another thread you need to delete the cached file of the profile picture so that it can be updated by the gravatar user.

i created a gravatar account, added the email address i use on here and uploaded the an image, but nothing happens.

this was 3 days ago.. could you please solve this problem?.

phats

Ha. MissFit. If you mean me (Phats) This is my inner self. Big Smile, a bit freaky & hiding behind a disguise.

My outside life & persona is all very different.

Don't be scared.

Phats.

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ex-jw-uk

by bigmac in

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friends

i'm quite new to this site, & have realised some members have a union jack symbol under their avatar.

i don't.. could we have a "show of hands" from any uk members?

i've already found several by reading older posts..

phats

I'm in the south east. Out for 8 years.

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Simon, please update my profile picture!

by will-be-apostate in

i've read on another thread you need to delete the cached file of the profile picture so that it can be updated by the gravatar user.

i created a gravatar account, added the email address i use on here and uploaded the an image, but nothing happens.

this was 3 days ago.. could you please solve this problem?.

phats

Thank you Simon,

I think the sites benefiting from the more personalized Avatars.

Thanks for doing this site as well. It's helped me out no end, I can tell you.

Phats.

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?? Question for those that have successfully faded/are out:

by Darth Fader The Sequel in

question: can any of you that have successfully faded out of the jw world without being df'd or da'd relate to me/us how you were able to maintain at least one or a few of your "still in" friends or family?

(and even if you were df'd or da'd and still maintained some relationships, how did that go?).

obviously, the truly demented, sick and twisted (and highly effective) policies and structure of the wtbt$ to set up a system by which anyone that chooses to no longer believe or participate must be treated as "mentally diseased" and a pariah by their own friends and family is the hands down, numero uno reason why many hundreds of thousands and possibly millions of jw's do not leave.

phats

I started writing & remembered I had said the same thing on a post I made when I joined. Sorry if it's to long a read but I've kept it as short as I could.

With my fade I had a stroke of luck when my book study overseer (lazy git. I did all my stuff & half of his) was so lazy that he forgot to shepherd me about something that I didn't actually do.

When I got the call from the 2 elders wanting to talk to me I asked them what about. They came round & explained the things that I was being removed for & said that this had all been explained buy my group study overseer. When I showed them this was not the case & that he had never come over at any time other than to watch the F1 Grand Prix with me they said that this was bad that nothing had been said as I should have been given a chance to comply. Then when they found out that there was nothing going on that was wrong & that they were mistaken they all looked rather embarrassed. Then when my study overseer was questioned he said that he had been to busy to talk to me about it even when he new it was going down when he came over to my house drinking my bear & watching the race with me.

Then I was told that the letter had already been sent, returned, rubber stamped & that nothing could be done now even if it was incorrect.

I was then told that he would be coming over (He never did) to apologise & say that if I carried on the same way that I had been for the last 15 years & not make a fuss about the wrong doing then I would be reinstated after the next CO visit.

I said that I was fine with no longer serving but all I would ask was that when the announcement went out about me no longer serving that they could also state that a misjudgment had been made on my behalf.

I reasoned with them that if they were going too make this announcement that some in the cong would wonder what it was that I had done & we have already agreed that I had done nothing wrong.

Well this was met by an overwhelming "err no".

I said that some brothers & sisters may wonder if I had been up to no good & as they couldn't stop the announcement that this would help me out.

I was then told that there was no provision for this so in disbelief I started looking through all the literature (Nothing) & then I started looking on the eval internet & the rest as they say is history (Well for me anyway)

The funny thing is they all new they cocked up & this gave me the perfect opportunity to bail & bail I jolly well did. Hurrah the the lazy buggers in my cong. there it was. An open door out & I was going to grab it with both hands,teeth, toes & whatever else I could muster up.

All my relatives & family know about the cock up.

What I was told though, was that in these cases the brother will be asked if he will open in prayer on the next sunday meeting & this will send out the unofficial word that I did nothing wrong so on the next Sunday I'm asked if I will open in prayer, I say yes of cause I would be happy to. I went up on to the platform said thank you Jehovah for everything you have done for us, said amen, got down, picked up my things & walked out with my bemused family following behind me.

I've never been back & its just great!!!!!!

Sorry for long post.

Phats.

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