Posts by opusdei1972

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Watchtower November 2014: Witnesses can't donate blood

by opusdei1972 in

let us read a recent watchtower publication:.

many medical professionals and other advocates of blood transfusion appeal to people to donate blood in hopes of saving lives.

however, jehovahs holy people acknowledge that the creator has the right to say how blood is to be treated.

opusdei1972

BU2B For instance, albumin is a fraction taken from Plasma. Plasma is one of the four components forbidden by the GB. But, the Governing Body allows the use of albumin. To get albumin you need blood donors. Furthermore, albumin is used to produce erythropoietin, which is used by Witnesses:

Questions From Readers

Would it be proper to accept a vaccination or some other medical injection containing albumin derived from human blood?

Frankly, each Christian must personally decide on this................Many find this noteworthy, since some vaccines that are not prepared from blood may contain a relatively small amount of plasma albumin that was used or added to stabilize the ingredients in the preparation. Currently a small amount of albumin is also used in injections of the synthetic hormone EPO (erythropoietin). Some Witnesses have accepted injections of EPO because it can hasten red blood cell production and so may relieve a physician of a feeling that a blood transfusion might be needed. (The Watchtower 10/1/1994, p. 31)

Note that though a small amount of albumin is used in EPO, you need many donors to produce it. In a private letter, the Governing Body has admitted the following:

...it is our understanding in many situations that blood from many donors would be needed to get sufficient amount of a required fraction for treatment......therefore, a Christian would carefully evaluate this possibility in determining whether to submit to having a minor fraction extracted from his blood (quoted from http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com.br/2012/03/jehovahs-witnesses-can-donate-blood.html )

So, though Witnesses are forbidden to donate blood, they can use fractions taken from many donors. A double Standard theology.

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Watchtower November 2014: Witnesses can't donate blood

by opusdei1972 in

let us read a recent watchtower publication:.

many medical professionals and other advocates of blood transfusion appeal to people to donate blood in hopes of saving lives.

however, jehovahs holy people acknowledge that the creator has the right to say how blood is to be treated.

opusdei1972

The GB says that "any sort of blood" is sacred, but how can they prove that a red cell is still blood and albumin is not?. We know that Witnesses are permitted to use albumin, which is in Plasma.

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Watchtower November 2014: Witnesses can't donate blood

by opusdei1972 in

let us read a recent watchtower publication:.

many medical professionals and other advocates of blood transfusion appeal to people to donate blood in hopes of saving lives.

however, jehovahs holy people acknowledge that the creator has the right to say how blood is to be treated.

opusdei1972

Let us read a recent Watchtower publication:

Many medical professionals and other advocates of blood transfusion appeal to people to donate blood in hopes of saving lives. However, Jehovah’s holy people acknowledge that the Creator has the right to say how blood is to be treated. To him, “any sort of blood” is sacred. We must be determined to obey his law on blood. By our holy conduct, we prove to him that we deeply appreciate the lifesaving power of Jesus’ blood —the only blood that makes possible the forgiveness of sin and everlasting life.—John 3:16. (The Watchtower November 2014, Study Edition, article: "Why We Must Be Holy", paragraph 15)

So, it is clear that the Governing Body is taking a firm position on the blood ban again. However, if "any sort of blood" is sacred, how can the governing body let Witnesses to accept blood fractions of "the four primary components" coming from donors who are not Witnesses?. But by the above words the governing body is suggesting that it is better to reject all blood. Now note the contradiction by reading a past publication:

Jehovah’s Witnesses hold that accepting whole blood or any of those four primary components violates God’s law....... However, since blood can be processed beyond those primary components, questions arise about fractions derived from the primary blood components......when it comes to fractions of any of the primary components, each Christian, after careful and prayerful meditation, must conscientiously decide for himself. (Question From Readers , w04 6/15 pp. 29-31 )

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Early christians : Were they chosen ?, if so, what about those who were not?

by opusdei1972 in

it is a hard task to understand what christ and early christians had in mind.

but i noted that in the gospels appears the word "elect" (greek eklektos).

it seems that early christians thought that they were chosen by god.

opusdei1972

It is a hard task to understand what Christ and early christians had in mind. But I noted that in the Gospels appears the word "elect" (greek eklektos). It seems that early christians thought that they were chosen by God. But if they thought that they were chosen, it means that not all people had the same opportunity to gain salvation. So, early christian thought they were in a vip club. For instance:

if you continue in your faith, established and firm, and do not move from the hope held out in the gospel. This is the gospel that you heard and that has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant. (Col 1:23)

Were not indians in the American Continent (Mexico, Peru, north america)?...what about chinese people ? So it seems that Paul thought that the END was very close and the earth was flat, in which only Europe, Asia and Africa existed. Note that only 1400 years later, american indians knew about Jesus and were forced to believe in the Catholic Faith. Furthermore, a later addition in Mark said:

Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. (Mark 16:16)

If I believe, this means that I choose to believe and not that I have been chosen. Worse, if I don't believe, I will be condemned. So, those american indians who rejected the Spanish Catholic priests who forced them with guns to believe in Jesus, will be condemned.

On the other hand, suppose that Mark told us accurately what Christ said in chaper 13. So, we have this statement:

And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. (Mark 13:20)

This statement makes sense only if you want to save the flesh of the elect on earth. However, Paul said that the elect will meet Jesus in the air and so they always be (2 Th. 4:17).

For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect. (Mark 13:22)

So, if the elect can be seduced by signs and wonders, why God permits false prophets to do those great miracles?

And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven. (Mark 13:27)

I can hardly understand it. But may be it means that the elect will be taken from the earth to be led to heaven, but it contradicts verse 20.

WHAT A MESS !!!

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E-Watchman? Thoughts?

by thedepressedsoul in

i stumbled upon the website e-watchman today and while i didn't have time to read over everything i found this thoughts so far quite interesting.

recently when reading matthew i can't help but feel that jesus warnings about the pharisees also applied to the gb and elders.

actually everytime jesus brought them up i realized how similar they are.

opusdei1972

In doing so he has insinuated that he is Ezekiel, Jah's modern day watchman.

But...Ezekiel was a false prophet....so by this way Robert King is following Ezekiel's steps.

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E-Watchman? Thoughts?

by thedepressedsoul in

i stumbled upon the website e-watchman today and while i didn't have time to read over everything i found this thoughts so far quite interesting.

recently when reading matthew i can't help but feel that jesus warnings about the pharisees also applied to the gb and elders.

actually everytime jesus brought them up i realized how similar they are.

opusdei1972

When I left the Society I contacted him by email. However, he was angry when I said that Rutherford was an evil man. So I noticed that he was as lunatic as Fred Franz. He even suggested me that I should not stop attending the meetings. Instead, I should wait for new instructions when the true anointed ones will be revealed.

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The Gentile Times were fulfilled

by opusdei1972 in

24 they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led captive among all nations; and jerusalem will be trodden down by the gentiles, until the times of the gentiles are fulfilled.

(luke 21:24).

as i see, a natural reading of this prophecy says that if we see jerusalem, the city, without being trodden down by the gentiles, the times of the gentiles will be fulfilled.

opusdei1972

24 they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led captive among all nations; and Jerusalem will be trodden down by the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. (Luke 21:24)

As I see, a natural reading of this prophecy says that if we see Jerusalem, the city, without being trodden down by the Gentiles, the times of the Gentiles will be fulfilled. However, many years ago, Jews returned to Jerusalem and this city is no more trodden down by the Gentiles.

It seems that Luke added this verse after Jerusalem was destroyed by the roman armies, so he thought that Jews could not govern there until Jesus' second coming. Furthermore, "orthodox" church fathers of the second century believed that Jerusalem would be rebuilt by Christ and he would reign there for 1000 years.

So, as I see, this prophecy was not fulfilled.

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Jesus was a false prophet?

by opusdei1972 in

and he said to them, "i tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of god come with power.

(mark 9:1).

when you are persecuted in one place, flee to another.

opusdei1972

Which generation is it referring to? When will The Tribulation happen?

But Jesus's words were clear as we read. It was his generation and the Tribulation is conected with Jerusalem's destruction:

1 As He was going out of the temple, one of His disciples *said to Him, “Teacher, behold what wonderful stones and what wonderful buildings!” 2 And Jesus said to him, “Do you see these great buildings? Not one stone will be left upon another which will not be torn down.” (Mark 1:1-2)

So, if Jesus did not come, he misled people.

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Jesus was a false prophet?

by opusdei1972 in

and he said to them, "i tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of god come with power.

(mark 9:1).

when you are persecuted in one place, flee to another.

opusdei1972

And he said to them, "I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God come with power. (Mark 9:1)

When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. Truly I tell you, you will not finish going through the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes - Matthew 10:23

24 “But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light , 25 and the stars will be falling from heaven, and the powers that are in the heavens will be shaken. 26 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then He will send forth the angels, and will gather together His elect from the four winds, from the farthest end of the earth to the farthest end of heaven....... 30 Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. (Mark 13:24-27,30)

These verses clearly show that Jesus believed that the kingdom of God together with his second parouxia would come in his generation, and not after that. If all these things did not happen in those days, we have no choice, Jesus was a false prophet. It is pointless to separate the events of Jerusalem's destruction (70 AD) with those of the second coming, because they are conected as we read above. Unless Jesus did not say the above words and Mark misquoted Peter (if Papias told us the truth about Mark's authorship).

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Question about Ezekiel's chronology

by opusdei1972 in

i am writing an article in spanish about the failed prophecies of ezekiel .

however, i have found a problem when researching.

for instance, in chapter 26 ezekiel says that yahweh gave him the prophecy against tyre in the eleventh year.

opusdei1972

AnnOMaly Many thanks for your quote. Indeed, I have noted that Ezekiel's chronology is a mess. For instance, in the first chapter Ezekiel says that the thirtieth year is the fifth year of the exile of King Jehoiachin . So, I see that Ezekiel's starting point is not the same in all his chapters.