Posts by opusdei1972

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Who was Jesus?

by Coded Logic in

who/what do you think jesus was?

and how did you arrive at that conclusion?

Jesus was a jew who led an apocalyptic movement. The actual reasons he was condemned are obscure. The fact is that the disciples of his disciples propagated many myths about him, which are written in the Gospels.

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The Bible is NOT Error-Free

by FusionTheism in

for many christians, the bible is viewed as the 100% error-free, perfect book straight from god, where every single word was carefully chosen by god for a reason.

but, usually, when you have a discussion on the topic, these christians will end up saying that only the original copies written directly from the hands of the prophets and apostles were error-free, and all manuscript copies since then are subject to copyist mistakes and other errors.. since zero original copies are in existence, how do we know the originals were error-free?

why should we think the originals should be error-free to begin with?

opusdei1972

....view the Bible as containing the Gospel Message of salvation, and the teachings of Jesus, which are infallible, but the rest of the Bible can (and does!) contain many copyist errors, and perhaps, historical or scientific mistakes.

Jesus believed in the myth of Noah and the Flood:

"Everybody kept on eating and drinking, men and women married, up to the very day Noah went into the ark and the Flood came and killed them all" (Luke 17:27)

Jesus was a false prophet according to the Gospels:

Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. (Matthew 24:34)

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David H. Splane: The “Slave” Is Not 1900 Years Old (Matt. 24:45)

by opusdei1972 in

interestingly, what the gb member david splane has actually exposed is that the christian religion is and was always a mess.

of course he is right in saying that there was no coherent spiritual guide during 1900 years, but it tells us what kind of "god" is their "jehovah god".

if that "god" exists, then he prevaricated for 1900 years, and he still maintains this attitude.

opusdei1972

...Also, note that if "Jehovah God" inspired "the Bible", he was very indifferent with respect to his Book. If that Book were an issue of salvation, why "Jehovah God" permitted so many centuries without its worldwide diffusion?. This reasoning is the key to determine if the god of the Bible actually exists.

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David H. Splane: The “Slave” Is Not 1900 Years Old (Matt. 24:45)

by opusdei1972 in

interestingly, what the gb member david splane has actually exposed is that the christian religion is and was always a mess.

of course he is right in saying that there was no coherent spiritual guide during 1900 years, but it tells us what kind of "god" is their "jehovah god".

if that "god" exists, then he prevaricated for 1900 years, and he still maintains this attitude.

opusdei1972

Interestingly, what the GB member David Splane has actually exposed is that the Christian religion is and was always a mess. Of course he is right in saying that there was no coherent spiritual guide during 1900 years, but it tells us what kind of "god" is their "Jehovah God". If that "god" exists, then he prevaricated for 1900 years, and he still maintains this attitude.

http://tv.jw.org/#video/VODProgramsEvents/pub-jwbmw_201506_1_VIDEO

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My experience of christians and religion

by Doltologist in

one or two of you have noticed that i use derogatory terms when talking about matters religion.

i offer no apology.

you do, however, deserve an explanation.. my father, bless him and now dead, was a survivor of belsen, the german concentration camp.

opusdei1972

The Old Testament preaches an immoral religion. Also, the New Testament forces us to believe in Jesus as the only mean of salvation, otherwise all we will be destroyed or tormented in a Hell.

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Are atheists more likely to be morally good than Christians?

by FusionTheism in

i have no problem saying atheists and christians are equal.. but some people seem to have the belief that atheists are more likely to be morally good, or more likely to change the world for good, than christians and theists.. but what evidence do you have to support this claim?.

if atheism is what causes people to do great positive things for the world, then why weren't martin luther king, jr., william wilberforce, isaac newton, francis collins, barack obama, mother theresa, abraham lincoln, or john f. kennedy atheists?.

opusdei1972

Christianism begins with a false premise and a wrong accusation:

"He[Jesus] is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world."

(1 John 2:2)

"Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ."

(1 John 2:22)

So, Christianism tells us that whoever denies the role of Jesus as the Christ, that one is a liar. This premise is already immoral.

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The moral problem of Ephesians 5:23

by opusdei1972 in

for the husband is the head of the wife as christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the savior.

(ephesians 5:23).

if jesus is the head of the church, jesus is responsible for the many contradictions contained in the new testament.

opusdei1972

How much control is acceptable for a husband to impose on his wife?

Could a husband prevent his wife from cheating on him?

Could a husband prevent his wife from committing heinous crimes?

Ok, then, I would divorce. Because if my wife commits those crimes I would leave her.

I think putting the blame on Jesus for the wrong acts of those who claim to act in his name is misguided.

If Jesus is currently the head of the Church, he is in fact responsible for its crimes. But if Jesus died as any man, and had no responsibility for what his apostles preached after that, so he was a simply man whose figure was used to expand a sect of liars.

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The moral problem of Ephesians 5:23

by opusdei1972 in

for the husband is the head of the wife as christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the savior.

(ephesians 5:23).

if jesus is the head of the church, jesus is responsible for the many contradictions contained in the new testament.

opusdei1972

the only answer is that he is a 'deadhead'.

yes

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The moral problem of Ephesians 5:23

by opusdei1972 in

for the husband is the head of the wife as christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the savior.

(ephesians 5:23).

if jesus is the head of the church, jesus is responsible for the many contradictions contained in the new testament.

opusdei1972

For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. (Ephesians 5:23)

If Jesus is the head of the Church, Jesus is responsible for the many contradictions contained in the New Testament. He is also responsible for the many divisions in the Church. He is responsible for the many crimes committed by the Catholic and the Protestant Churches. .....So, if he is the head of the Church, he prevaricates every day.

So, if you believe that Jesus is the head of the Church, what kind of head he is?????

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All Christians Should Accept EVOLUTION

by FusionTheism in

it is time for christians to accept evolution, in my opinion.. there are many reasons why i think it is long overdue for all christians to finally accept what science says about evolution.

below i will show these reasons.. .

the bible tells people to pay attention to nature to see the glory of god (psalm 19; romans 1:19-20).

opusdei1972

There is no contradiction between accepting evolution and believing in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. There is no reason you can't believe in both Jesus saving us from sin and that evolution was the natural process God used to create life on earth.

The problem is that Jesus and his apostles believed that Adam was the first man. However, Adam is the personage of a myth who born just 4000 years before Christ. But we know that the first men lived 200 000 years ago, and most probably they came from Africa and not from the garden of Eden which was, according to the Bible, in the Middle East, situated somewhere near where the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers are today. So, why should believe in the Gospel of Jesus, knowing that this Gospel contains serious errors????