Posts by opusdei1972

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The pedophile is in better position than the apostate

by opusdei1972 in

i know that in english there are better pages exposing the organization, but here i updated the page (in spanish) with an article untitled "la organizacion jehovista oculta el abuso sexual" (the jehovist organization hides sexual abuse) based on the last news on "child abuse" in australia, and quoting watchtower's articles in which you can note how in this organization, the penitent pedophiles are in better position than the "apostates" who denounce the organization's absurdities .. http://jehovismo.com/.

for instance, i quoted the watchtower 1997 jan 1 p.29, where it is said that it is permitted for the penitent pedophile to preach door to door:.

if he seems to be repentant, he will be encouraged to make spiritual progress, share in the field service, even have parts in the theocratic ministry school (the watchtower, january 1, 1997).

opusdei1972

The following are Watchtower's words against apostates:

Others claim to believe the Bible, but they reject Jehovah's organization and actively try to hinder its work. When they deliberately choose such badness after knowing what is right, when the bad becomes so ingrained that it is an inseparable part of their makeup, then a Christian must hate (in the Biblical sense of the word) those who have inseparably attached themselves to the badness. True Christians share Jehovah's feelings toward such apostates; they are not curious about apostate ideas. On the contrary, they "feel a loathing" toward those who have made themselves God's enemies, but they leave it to Jehovah to execute vengeance." (The Watchtower, October 1, 1993)

However, we don't read such strong words against pedophiles in the Organization.

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The pedophile is in better position than the apostate

by opusdei1972 in

i know that in english there are better pages exposing the organization, but here i updated the page (in spanish) with an article untitled "la organizacion jehovista oculta el abuso sexual" (the jehovist organization hides sexual abuse) based on the last news on "child abuse" in australia, and quoting watchtower's articles in which you can note how in this organization, the penitent pedophiles are in better position than the "apostates" who denounce the organization's absurdities .. http://jehovismo.com/.

for instance, i quoted the watchtower 1997 jan 1 p.29, where it is said that it is permitted for the penitent pedophile to preach door to door:.

if he seems to be repentant, he will be encouraged to make spiritual progress, share in the field service, even have parts in the theocratic ministry school (the watchtower, january 1, 1997).

opusdei1972

I know that in English there are better pages exposing the organization, but here I updated the page (In Spanish) with an article untitled "La organización jehovista oculta el abuso sexual" (the jehovist organization hides sexual abuse) based on the last news on "Child Abuse" in Australia, and quoting Watchtower's articles in which you can note how in this Organization, the penitent pedophiles are in better position than the "apostates" who denounce the Organization's absurdities .

http://jehovismo.com/

For instance, I quoted the Watchtower 1997 Jan 1 p.29, where it is said that it is permitted for the penitent pedophile to preach door to door:

If he seems to be repentant, he will be encouraged to make spiritual progress, share in the field service, even have parts in the Theocratic Ministry School (The Watchtower, January 1, 1997)

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The Assyrian started to attack from Australia

by opusdei1972 in

the gb has been preparing the flock for the assyrian's attack, that now is starting from australia:.

elders, you can learn some helpful lessons from what we have just discussed: (1) the best thing you can do to prepare for the future attack of the assyrian is to strengthen your faith in god and help your brothers to do the same.

(2) when the assyrian attacks, you must be completely convinced that jehovah will save us.

opusdei1972

I wonder what will be the next attack of "the Assyrian". I would be interesting to review the tax exemptions of this cult in US.

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The Assyrian started to attack from Australia

by opusdei1972 in

the gb has been preparing the flock for the assyrian's attack, that now is starting from australia:.

elders, you can learn some helpful lessons from what we have just discussed: (1) the best thing you can do to prepare for the future attack of the assyrian is to strengthen your faith in god and help your brothers to do the same.

(2) when the assyrian attacks, you must be completely convinced that jehovah will save us.

opusdei1972

The GB has been preparing the flock for the Assyrian's attack, that now is starting from Australia:

Elders, you can learn some helpful lessons from what we have just discussed: (1) The best thing you can do to prepare for the future attack of “the Assyrian” is to strengthen your faith in God and help your brothers to do the same. (2) When “the Assyrian” attacks, you must be completely convinced that Jehovah will save us. (3) At that time, the direction that you receive from Jehovah’s organization may seem strange or unusual. But all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether we agree with them or not, because obeying these instructions will save our lives.

ws13 11/15 pp. 15-20

As we see, the RC is being manipulated by the Assyrian. So, no matter how many sexual abusers can be in organization, witnesses must obey the instructions of the GB.

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Branch Service Department Manual approves appointing Child molestors as Elders

by stuckinamovement in

http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/downloadfile.ashx?guid=7ba22716-556c-43c2-9fc6-76697afad440&type=exhibit&filename=wat.0001.004.0076&fileextension=pdf

opusdei1972

It reads: "Although the elders make the recommendation, the final decision is always made by the branch office, not by the local elders"

My question is if the above statement has been modified. As far as I know, currently, was not the Circuit Overseer who makes this final decision??? Am I right?

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FMF Rant on Abuse and JW Apologists: The Single Root of the Whole Issue(s)

by freemindfade in

for the jw apologists, they debate certain factors to down play all the recent sex abuse information in the jehovah's witness organization.

and there is so much focus on "two witness rule" and "parents can report" the "elders aren't legal authorities" and many other smoke screen issues.

a lot of these issues and discussion are down stream from what i believe to be the root of the issue.

opusdei1972

When I was facing a judicial committtee many years ago, one of the elders asked me if I would prefer my family instead of obeying Jehovah when persecuted. He specified: "if the police threat you to kill your family if you don't tell some names of the members of the congregation, what would you do?...would you betray your brothers?" I said: "I have never been in that case". So, the elder told me: "we must hate our flesh to obey Jehovah".

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Child abuse a sin not a crime to JW's

by snare&racket in

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this australian investigation is astounding to watch.. the elders clearly don't see child abuse as criminal, if a jw confessed to murder, the police would immediately be called.

yet child rape is a spiritual issue..... ridiculous.. this is what happens when 7 window cleaners lead a bunch of dangerously loyal, ignorant middle aged men ...... in managing 7 million people..

opusdei1972

This is what happens when 7 window cleaners lead a bunch of dangerously loyal, ignorant middle aged men

This problem emerges for discouraging secular education.

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Stephen Lett's pedophile confession

by C0ntr013r in

this "confession" should be aired on the tv channel in regards to the investigation into jw's cover up of child abuse.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8cctyxnr-w. quite fitting, don't you think?

xd.

opusdei1972

Obviously, they ARE.......he admitted it.

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DOES "ABSTAIN FROM BLOOD" really mean "Do not murder?"

by TerryWalstrom in

20:28 - jesus' shed blood, thus related to murder.

with the words of augustine firmly in mind we now ask this important question:.

abstaining from blood(shed) preserves life!

opusdei1972

Firstly I have to say that not always we can get the logic of the christian theologians of the first century. However, it is interesting the quote that mentions what Augustine heard about the policy : "abstain from blood", because it seems that the prohibition of eating unbled animals was already mentioned in the abstention of "things strangled". This is why Tertullian at the end of the second century mentioned that christians do not eat sausage of blood. So, it makes sense if "to abstain from blood" meant "do not murder".

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Could this news cause a new revolt of members taking the lead like that which happened after the 1975 fiasco?

by opusdei1972 in

we know that after the 1975 fiasco there were some revolts and disappointments in the brotherhood, which finally caused the removal of raymond franz and overseers like james penton, and so on.

so, may be these news could cause the revolt of some members in the leadership.

any thoughts?

opusdei1972

I remember that some decades ago the Catholic Church was arrogant in denying that the sexual abuse was an issue in the Church. At least, the John Paul II ignored the complaints against the priest Marcial Maciel, and so on. However, I think that the frequent news obligated the Vatican to admit that the Church has serious problem with sexual abuses. However, the GB still doesn't want to admit it.